David Raphael david.raphael at ceterum.net
Wed Feb 5 22:58:21 EST 2003

Hello Everyone,

Jeff sent this out last week, and I was wondering if anyone has had a 
chance to look at it?

I have reviewed the source (GPL) pretty extensively and I believe that 
it will work quite well with our portal.  Please everyone review the 
FAQ on the site.  It will walk you through the idea behind these 
Forums.  I like to look at it as a very "pro-active" concept of a 
forum.  And it seems to be much less prone to Slashdot-type flame-bait 
posts.  Meaningful discussions that are time-sensitive seems to be the 
focus here.

Love to hear everyones' thoughts.


On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 08:30  AM, Jeff Williams @ Aspect 

> I saw this a few months ago and thought it was a very very cool idea.  
> http://h2oproject.law.harvard.edu/  It's based on Struts and is free 
> and open source.  You should try it out at 
> http://h2o.law.harvard.edu/index.jsp.
> "The Rotisserie implements an innovative approach to online discussion 
> that encourages measured, thoughtful discourse in a way that 
> traditional threaded messaging systems cannot. In contrast to the 
> completely asynchronous, broadcast-to-broadcast mode of existing 
> threaded messaging systems, the Rotisserie adds structure to both the 
> timing and the flow of the discussion. The timing of the discussion is 
> broken into semi-synchronous rounds. Users are allowed to post 
> responses at any time, but their responses are not published to other 
> users until the deadline for the current round passes. This structure 
> allows users to put significant thought into their responses rather 
> than competing with other participants to post first. More important, 
> this structure allows the system to control the flow of the discussion 
> by distributing responses to specific users for further discussion at 
> the end of each round, ensuring that every post is distributed to at 
> least one other user for comment and that each user has exactly one 
> post to which to respond. Lastly, the Rotisserie system includes 
> support for discussion not only within a given class, but also between 
> many different classes at once, allowing, for instance, Internet law 
> classes at HLS and Cambridge to participate in a discussion about 
> digital rights management with an engineering course at MIT."
> --Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Curphey
> To: owasp-leaders at lists.sourceforge.net
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:46 AM
> Subject: [OWASP-LEADERS] OWASP Forums
> As you know for a while many of us have wanted to have our own
> discussion forums to enable recorded debate and project support
> discussions which can be available for all to view. Its a community
> thing I think. It would also be nice for webappsec and other mailing
> list archives to be on the portal.
> Today I hope we are getting close to formalizing sponsorship for this
> portion of the new portal with a company called Tech-Partners.
> We originally looked at the enterprise version of Jive Forums
> (http://www.jivesoftware.com) which runs the forums at
> http://forums.java.sun.com and integrates with LDAP and other
> architecturally significant parts of the new portal infrastructure. Of
> course in an ideal world there would be an open source forum software 
> in
> Java that would offer all of the same features (Java, LDAP, Moderation,
> profanity filters etc) and scale to meet our requirements.
> I don't think there is in Java but before we spend $7,500 on the
> software, can anyone suggest any alternatives ?
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