[OWASP-PORTAL] Re: [OWASP-LEADERS] Food for thought - Web Browser compatibility

David Raphael david.raphael at ceterum.net
Wed Apr 9 02:31:59 EDT 2003


Well everyone,

We have NS4 support now.  Degraded, but supported.  Thanks for your 
feedback.

/D

On Tuesday, April 8, 2003, at 11:47  AM, David Raphael wrote:

> Well I agree with you about NS4 being damned - It is a worthless 
> browser and we should not feed companies products that encourage 
> support.
>
> However, do you support 90%? or 100%?  I am leaning towards 100%.  I 
> am just imagining how many Sun Workstations are running Netscape 4.xx. 
>  and those are J2EE developers that are going to be very unhappy with 
> no NS4 support.
>
> So far I am testing with the following browsers:
>
> PASSED:
> Internet Explorer for Windows 5.5
> Internet Explorer for Windows 6.0
> Internet Explorer for Mac 5.0
> Netscape 6.0-7.0
> Mozilla .99-1.4a
>
> FAILED:
> Netscape 4.XX
>
> We can support NS4.  But the question is should we?
>
> /D
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 8, 2003, at 10:17  AM, Alex Russell wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, David Raphael wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> First off - what Web Browser does everyone use here? Please list
>>> Version as well.
>>
>> Konqueror 3.x
>> Mozilla 1.3.x
>> Opera 7
>>
>> (all on Linux, and in that order in terms of frequency)
>>
>>> Additionally,
>>>
>>> I have been gathering some statistics on Web Browser distibution.  
>>> Here
>>> is what I found
>>>
>>> http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat_trends.htm
>>>
>>> I have also seen other statistics.  But the main issue is old 
>>> Netscape
>>> support.
>>
>> I'm of the opinion that we should design degradeably, so that our
>> content is accessable, but that explicitly trying to support browsers
>> that understand nothing but tag soup is not only endangers our ability
>> to write standards compliant code, but also holds the web back.
>>
>> I say go nuts with CSS and NN4 be damned. However, given that 
>> approach,
>> I don't think we should be doing things like using tables for layout,
>> etc...
>>
>> -- 
>> Alex Russell
>> alex at SecurePipe.com
>> alex at netWindows.org
>>
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