[Owasp-greece] Paraitithikan o proedros kai ta melh ths Arxhs Prostasias Dedomenwn Proswpikou Xarakthra

Konstantinos Papapanagiotou conpap at di.uoa.gr
Mon Nov 26 11:25:37 EST 2007


Pera apo to thema twn kamerwn, to opoio einai kai gnwsto kai
polu-suzitimeno, to simantiko nomizw edw einai oti i Arxi agnoithike
plirws. Oi thesmothetimenes apo to Syntagma, Aneksartites Arxes mas
einai apo ta simantikotera organa tis Ellinikis koinwnias, oi opoies
omws dexontai sunexws xtupimata, eite apo pithana sumferonta eite apo
ton aplo kosmo o opoios mesa stin agnoia tou parasuretai apo pompwdeis
dilwseis laikismou diaforwn dimosiografwn kai politikwn.

Elpizw to gegonos auto pou prokalese polles suzitiseis na apotelesei tin
aformi gia ton epanaprosdiorismo tou rolou kai tis dikaiodosias twn
Aneksartitwn Arxwn, kati pou exoume suzitisei kai palaiotera apo edw,
para na apotelesei kako proigoumeno gia paromoia peristatika sto mellon.


At Tuesday, November 20, 2007, 2:15:08 PM, you wrote:

> Poly sosta ta osa mas eipe o Kostas kai symfono apolyta. Sthn sygkekrimeni
> periptosi pistevo den eprepe na paraviastei h apofash ths Arxhs poy exei
> san geniko kanona (kai poly sosta) na mhn epitrepei thn parakolouthisi 
> diadiloseon mesa apo tis kameres. Parola ta ektropa pou exoume dei stis 
> poreies, paroles tis katastrofes, h xrhsh kameron einai akros ypervolikh
> kai tonizei thn adynamia tou kratous na diasfalisei oti mia poreia mporei
> na pragmatopoiithei omala. H diasfalish ths poreias mporei na ginei me 
> pollous tropous. Mporei na enimerothei h Astynomia gia ton dromo pou tha
> akoloythisei h poreia meso ths syntonistikhs epitrophs (poy afto panta 
> ginetai), sthn synexeia na sxediasei ena plano kai na entopisei tis 
> "evaisthites" perioxes kai na tis prostatefsei topothetontas astynomikh 
> dynamh. An xreiastei na topothethsei kai astynomikous me politika, mesa 
> sthn poreia kai na sylamvanoun olous tous koukouloforous. Polles alles 
> idees gia PROLIPSI mporoun na anaferthoun edo.

> Genikotera h adynamia tou kratous na diasfalisei me anthropino dynamiko mia
> epityximenh poreia, odhgei sthn xrhsh kameron, h an thelete, sto prosxhma
> gia xrhsh kameron. Den mporo na pistepso oti h astynomia den gnorizei kathe
> fora poioi prokaloun to provlima, kai poioi einai aftoi oi 
> gnostoi-agnostoi. Apla eite tous volevei na einai ekei, eite exoun 
> topothetithei epitides gia na dhmioyrgoun to provlima kai na meta na 
> mporoun na dikaiologhsoun alla metra pou mporei na lavoun.

> Telos, pistevo oti h xrhsh ton kameron akomh kai gia tis troxaies 
> paravaseis, tha prepei na katargithei. Allo na milame gia PROLIPSI, kai 
> allo na tous theoroume olous san PITHANOUS EGKLIMATIES. Afto synevei me tis
> kameres sthn diadilosh stis 17/11. Oloi osoi diadilosan antimetopistikan
> san pithanoi egklimaties apo to kratos, kai afto einai lathos.

> Giafto sygxaritiria ston Proedro kai sta melh ths Arxhs..!! Htan apo tis
> kalyteres kinhseis pou mporousan na kanoun kathos etsi edosan kai parapano
> dhmosiotita sto thema, pou toy xreiazotan, eidallos mporei tora na mhn to
> syzitagame kai na eixe thaftei me synoptikes diadikasies.

>  
> On Nov 20 2007, Konstantinos Koukopoulos wrote:

>>On Monday 19 November 2007 22:56:34 I.Anastasopoulos at herts.ac.uk wrote:
>>> Entaksei apo ton titlo katafera kai vrika to thema..
>>>
>>> Proto sxolio mou pros olous tous apodektes... Sygxaritiria ston Proedro 
>>> kai sta melh ths Arxhs kathos timane tis thesis pou prepei na exei h 
>>> yphresia..! Aparadekto to YDT giafthn tou thn kinhsh..
>>
>> An kai den kserw oles tis leptomereies, mporw na fantastw mia periptosi 
>> opou i APDPX den tha eixe toso ksekathara dikio. Prosopika den thewrw oti 
>> uparxei kammia anagki gia kameres ruthmisis tis kukloforias sto kentro 
>> tis athinas (panepistimiou, vas. sofias, k.lp.). Omos ean ginei dekto oti 
>> uparxoun arketoi logoi na egkatastathoun kameres kai dothei ston aplo 
>> troxonomo i dunatotita na parakolouthei tis leoforeiolorides gia na 
>> vevaionei paravaseis tote den nomizo oti mporei logika na isxurizetai i 
>> APDPX oti o eisaggeleas den dikaioutai na sulleksei mesw twn kamerwn 
>> stoixeia gia ena egklima otan auto sunteleitai i prokeitai na 
>> suntelestei. Leo 'otan' gia na ksekatharisw oti milaw kathara gia 
>> periptoseis opou uparxoun sovares endeikseis oti ena egklima suntelestike 
>> i tha suntelestei kai oxi gia oles tis periptoseis pou mporei enas 
>> astunomikos na theorei 'epikindunes'. Mia diadilosi mporei gia paradeigma 
>> na einai 'epikinduni' alla den einai paranomi oste na dikaiologeitai i 
>> katagrafi tis apo ton eisaggelea. Apo tin alli ean se mia diadilosi exei 
>> suntelestei ena autoforo egklima i ean o eisaggeleas krinei oti uparxoun 
>> endeikseis pou na stekoun se dikastirio gia tin prothesi diapraksis 
>> egklimatos tote den nomizo oti i APDPX mporei logika na diamarturithei 
>> ean xrisimopoiithoun oi kameres gia tin dioksi tou egklimatos. 
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