[Owasp-germany] [Owasp-leaders] RSA

Björn Kimminich bjoern.kimminich at gmx.de
Thu Jan 9 22:20:27 UTC 2014


Thank you, Jim, for (accidentally?) pointing <<<away from the US privacy violations and >>>at the German copyright problems for a change... ;-p

"Leider ist dieses Video, das Musik von EMI beinhaltet, in Deutschland nicht verfügbar, da die GEMA die Verlagsrechte hieran nicht eingeräumt hat."
("Unfortunately this video is not available in Germany, as it contains music from EMI for which the GEMA did not grant the right of publishing.")

Cheers,
Björn

PS: This one works even for Germans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-nTBiwdiE
	
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owasp-germany-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:owasp-germany-bounces at lists.owasp.org] Im Auftrag von Jim Manico
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2014 21:58
An: Ralf Reinhardt; owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
Cc: owasp-germany at lists.owasp.org
Betreff: Re: [Owasp-germany] [Owasp-leaders] RSA

Ralf,

OWASP did indeed cancel the co-marketing agreement with RSA and Eoin and I chose to cancel the training. So it looks like the folks voting on this poll got what they wanted.

Aloha OWASP Germany,
Jim

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnFZG4dyQmM


> Eoin and Jim
> +1 and thank you.
> 
> Just for your information:
> 
> Since quite a lot of people in Germany meanwhile feel unhappy and 
> monitored then using google and other US located or owned services, 
> large parts of the German OWASP or web application security community 
> probably does not even have or use an OWASP.org account.
> 
> So it was   in my eyes   utterly unfair to exclude them. I did send 
> the information that there is a poll going on into the German OWASP 
> mailing list and cloned the poll of Simon into ServeyMonkey (yes, 
> still US owned and logging IPs, but the world is not perfect).
> 
> I asked the owasp.org account holder to use the "official" one and 
> anybody else to use my cloned version. I did this about 8,5 h before, 
> and until now 29 persons have voted:
> 
> -----8<-----
> Should OWASP give a developer training cource at the 2014 RSA 
> conference? For background info see 
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2014-January/thread.html
> 
> - Yes, this should be an official OWASP initiative, 3,45%, 1 person
> - Yes, as long as the training is given as individuals an not an 
> official OWASP initiative, 3,45%, 1 person
> - No, OWASP should publicly pull out, 89,66%, 26 persons
> - The board should decide, 3,45%, 1 person
> 
> 
> Should OWASP make a public statement to the effect that 
> subverting/weakening crypto is a bad idea
> 
> - Yes, 96,55%, 28 persons
> - No, 3,45%, 1 person
> -----8<-----
> 
> 
> Am Donnerstag, den 09.01.2014, 19:58 +0000 schrieb Dinis Cruz:
>> Yeah that RSA answer is quite out of order. Is that published 
>> somewhere? It would be good to have a public record of how they 
>> reacted
>>
>> On 9 Jan 2014 19:43, "Jim Manico" <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>         OWASP Leaders,
>>         
>>         Among many reasons, one being that Eoin and I are co-authors,
>>         I am going to follow his lead and pull way from the RSA
>>         conference training.
>>         
>>         This was a difficult decision and I am not happy at how this
>>         all went down. Again, I think we need to apply this same kind
>>         of judgement evenly.
>>         
>>         Frankly, I was very positive on doing the RSA training up
>>         until we received their response asking us to cease-and-desist
>>         from talking to BSsides and asking Eoin for a retraction. I
>>         can't say that I blame them, but it made it clear to me that
>>         we we either need to do the co-marketing and training, or walk
>>         away from both.
>>         
>>         Aloha,
>>         Jim Manico
>>         OWASP Board Member
>>         @Manicode
>>         (808) 652-3805
>>         
>>         
>>         
>>         
>>         > OWASP leaders,
>>         >
>>         > I've decided to pull my delivery of training from the RSA
>>         conference.
>>         >
>>         > I don't believe supporting in organisation who tries to
>>         control other organisations (whom they talk to) or is
>>         allegedly involved with weak crypto/NSA conspiracy is good for
>>         the foundation.
>>         >
>>         > I also request that OWASP pull the plug on any involvement
>>         with RSA for 2014.
>>         >
>>         > Sorry I this upsets some people. I was voted (as a board
>>         member)  to lead by you and I am trying to do just that.
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > Eoin Keary
>>         > Owasp Global Board
>>         > +353 87 977 2988
>>         >
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