[Owasp-egypt] Any actual step?

Ahmed Abbas HASSAN kaswaraa at gmail.com
Tue Jul 6 07:57:19 EDT 2010


Dear All,
I am also listed since one year. Since that time, i didn't found any
activities in our chapter, i am really pessimistic and optimistic at the
same time :D.
We have initiation, we have people, we have resources, we have welling.
We need to take true actual steps.

I think first, we need to arrange meeting ASAP.
We can do it in Alex where this month is summer vacation time :).
Who will be responsible for meeting schedule?

Ahmed Hassan
Information Security Consultant
IDS/IPS/SIEM analyst

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:50 AM, <owasp-egypt-request at lists.owasp.org>wrote:

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> From: Ahmed Mekkawy <ahmed at linuxawy.org>
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-egypt] How to participate
> To: Hamdy Abdel-Badeea <hamdy.a.farag at gmail.com>
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> ?Hi Guys,
>
> I've been inactive here for .. hmm.. well lots of time.. I'm mainly
> interested in servers/network security but of course webapps security is as
> important.
>
> If there's a meeting i'll be interested to join isA.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Hamdy Abdel-Badeea <
> hamdy.a.farag at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > OK, sounds good
> >
> > But still we'll get a problem because of the lack of people and because
> me
> > and Sherif are just newbies in web security.But I think we can help
> though.
> >
> > We can meet and discuss
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Nadim Barsoum <barsoum at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I agree. We should meet and agree on a plan for the Egyptian chapter,
> >> there is a lot of room for us to grow and tons of people to reach out
> to.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:55 AM, omar.sherin at infosec2.com <
> >> omar.sherin at infosec2.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Gents
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for opening a topic for discussion, The last time I checked the
> >>> OWASP egypt list had about 12 members.
> >>>
> >>> If i may propose a topic as well , its the need to start a chapter
> >>> meeting...this is the only way we can get the community more into it.
> >>>
> >>> BTW in all the 100+ OWASP chapters worldwide only 10-15 are the active
> >>> ones..usually in the big capitals. The only active chapter in the
> region is
> >>> israel's ( more than 2000 members, mostly university students)
> >>>
> >>> The only chapter meeting we had so far was in 2008 in alexandria and we
> >>> had about 18-20 attendees. A meeting place in cairo or alex is no issue
> at
> >>> all, its the speakers...so if you are interested lets share our
> >>> presentations ideas and come up with an event program.
> >>>
> >>> back at you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   On Jul 6, 2010, at 6:50 AM, Nadim Barsoum wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   Hi Mostafa, Hamdy and Sherif,
> >>>     Nice to meet you all, I wonder how many more members exist on this
> >>> list that would like to participate and liven up the group. To answer
> your
> >>> question Sherif, I'm not so sure there is one set of steps. Mostafa
> Siraj (a
> >>> member on this list) has put together a nice introductory presentation
> (
> >>> http://mostafasiraj.blogspot.com/). And there are a number of books
> out
> >>> there on the subject. I'd say really what it comes down to is knowing
> what
> >>> to look for. The most basic application security issue arises from the
> fact
> >>> that you never know what the user is going to throw at you, and,
> depending
> >>> on what language you're programming in and the context (meaning, is it
> a web
> >>> app, is it a thick client app, is it a driver?), those could be
> different
> >>> things. What do the rest of the list members think?
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Nadim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----------------------
> >>>
> >>> Hi there, I'm also here.
> >>>
> >>> And as I'm interested in Web App Security, I'm taking the first steps,
> so
> >>> why don't we talk about "Steps required to be proficient at web
> application
> >>> security". What do you think?? what about you?? if there are any geeks
> on
> >>> the list, it'd be marvelous to learn from them.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Nadim Barsoum <
> Nadim.barsoum at evision.ws<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3aNadim.barsoum%40evision.ws
> >
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> Can-we-possibly start interesting discussions? Who else is on this
> list?
> >>> ________________________________________
> >>> From: owasp-egypt-bounces at lists.owasp.org<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3aowasp-egypt-bounces%40lists.owasp.org
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> >]
> >>> On Behalf Of Mostafa Siraj [mostafa.siraj at gmail.com<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3amostafa.siraj%40gmail.com
> >
> >>> ]
> >>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 4:46 PM
> >>> To: Hamdy Abdel-Badeea
> >>> Cc: owasp-egypt at lists.owasp.org<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3aowasp-egypt%40lists.owasp.org
> >
> >>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-egypt] How to participate
> >>>
> >>> you can participate in other OWASP mailing lists for more active
> >>> discussions
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Mostafa<http://twitter.com/mostafasiraj<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=http%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2fmostafasiraj
> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Hamdy Abdel-Badeea <
> >>> hamdy.a.farag at inbox.com<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3ahamdy.a.farag%40inbox.com
> >
> >>> <mailto:hamdy.a.farag at inbox.com<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3ahamdy.a.farag%40inbox.com
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I found the group quiet , so how to participate and get to know people
> >>> here ?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Hamdy
> >>>
> >>> ____________________________________________________________
> >>> Publish your photos in seconds for FREE
> >>> TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.imtoolpack.com%2fdefault.aspx%3frc%3dif4
> >
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >
> >>> <mailto:Owasp-egypt at lists.owasp.org<
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> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is
> that
> >>> we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that
> most
> >>> frightens us. We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous,
> >>> talented, and fabulous?Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child
> of
> >>> God. Your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing
> enlightened
> >>> about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We
> are
> >>> all meant to shine, as children do. We are born to make manifest the
> glory
> >>> of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us, it's in
> everyone. And
> >>> as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people
> permission
> >>> to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence
> >>> automatically liberates others." --Nelson Mandela--
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Owasp-egypt mailing list
> >>> Owasp-egypt at lists.owasp.org<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3aOwasp-egypt%40lists.owasp.org
> >
> >>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-egypt<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=https%3a%2f%2flists.owasp.org%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2fowasp-egypt
> >
> >>> <ATT00001..txt>
> >>>
> >>>
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> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:56:23 +0300
> From: Mostafa Siraj <mostafa.siraj at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-egypt] How to participate
> To: Hamdy Abdel-Badeea <hamdy.a.farag at gmail.com>
> Cc: OWASP <owasp-egypt at lists.owasp.org>
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>
> Hello,
>
> I would agree with Nadim with everything he said, I would also add that
> OWASP has some of the best "FREE" resources out there related to AppSec,
> here are some useful stuff from OWASP that you must study very well to have
> an insight in AppSec
>
> - Owasp Top 10<
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Top_Ten_Project>
> <http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Top_Ten_Project>- Owasp
> Development Guide<
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Guide_Project#tab=Downloads>
>  <
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Guide_Project#tab=Downloads
> >-
> Owasp Testing Guide<
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Testing_Project>
> <http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Testing_Project>-
> WebGoat<http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_WebGoat_Project>(a
> vulnerable web application to get your hands dirty)
>
> I think the above resources will guide you to other important material and
> resource
>
> note: please add a signature in your emails to know each other more
>
> Mostafa Siraj <http://twitter.com/mostafasiraj>
> R&D Engineer (Security Group)
> ITWorx Egypt
> www.ITWorx.com
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Hamdy Abdel-Badeea <
> hamdy.a.farag at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > OK, sounds good
> >
> > But still we'll get a problem because of the lack of people and because
> me
> > and Sherif are just newbies in web security.But I think we can help
> though.
> >
> > We can meet and discuss
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Nadim Barsoum <barsoum at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I agree. We should meet and agree on a plan for the Egyptian chapter,
> >> there is a lot of room for us to grow and tons of people to reach out
> to.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:55 AM, omar.sherin at infosec2.com <
> >> omar.sherin at infosec2.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Gents
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for opening a topic for discussion, The last time I checked the
> >>> OWASP egypt list had about 12 members.
> >>>
> >>> If i may propose a topic as well , its the need to start a chapter
> >>> meeting...this is the only way we can get the community more into it.
> >>>
> >>> BTW in all the 100+ OWASP chapters worldwide only 10-15 are the active
> >>> ones..usually in the big capitals. The only active chapter in the
> region is
> >>> israel's ( more than 2000 members, mostly university students)
> >>>
> >>> The only chapter meeting we had so far was in 2008 in alexandria and we
> >>> had about 18-20 attendees. A meeting place in cairo or alex is no issue
> at
> >>> all, its the speakers...so if you are interested lets share our
> >>> presentations ideas and come up with an event program.
> >>>
> >>> back at you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   On Jul 6, 2010, at 6:50 AM, Nadim Barsoum wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   Hi Mostafa, Hamdy and Sherif,
> >>>     Nice to meet you all, I wonder how many more members exist on this
> >>> list that would like to participate and liven up the group. To answer
> your
> >>> question Sherif, I'm not so sure there is one set of steps. Mostafa
> Siraj (a
> >>> member on this list) has put together a nice introductory presentation
> (
> >>> http://mostafasiraj.blogspot.com/). And there are a number of books
> out
> >>> there on the subject. I'd say really what it comes down to is knowing
> what
> >>> to look for. The most basic application security issue arises from the
> fact
> >>> that you never know what the user is going to throw at you, and,
> depending
> >>> on what language you're programming in and the context (meaning, is it
> a web
> >>> app, is it a thick client app, is it a driver?), those could be
> different
> >>> things. What do the rest of the list members think?
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Nadim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----------------------
> >>>
> >>> Hi there, I'm also here.
> >>>
> >>> And as I'm interested in Web App Security, I'm taking the first steps,
> so
> >>> why don't we talk about "Steps required to be proficient at web
> application
> >>> security". What do you think?? what about you?? if there are any geeks
> on
> >>> the list, it'd be marvelous to learn from them.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Nadim Barsoum <
> Nadim.barsoum at evision.ws<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3aNadim.barsoum%40evision.ws
> >
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> Can-we-possibly start interesting discussions? Who else is on this
> list?
> >>> ________________________________________
> >>> From: owasp-egypt-bounces at lists.owasp.org<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3aowasp-egypt-bounces%40lists.owasp.org
> >[
> >>> owasp-egypt-bounces at lists.owasp.org<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3aowasp-egypt-bounces%40lists.owasp.org
> >]
> >>> On Behalf Of Mostafa Siraj [mostafa.siraj at gmail.com<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3amostafa.siraj%40gmail.com
> >
> >>> ]
> >>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 4:46 PM
> >>> To: Hamdy Abdel-Badeea
> >>> Cc: owasp-egypt at lists.owasp.org<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3aowasp-egypt%40lists.owasp.org
> >
> >>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-egypt] How to participate
> >>>
> >>> you can participate in other OWASP mailing lists for more active
> >>> discussions
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Mostafa<http://twitter.com/mostafasiraj<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=http%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2fmostafasiraj
> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Hamdy Abdel-Badeea <
> >>> hamdy.a.farag at inbox.com<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3ahamdy.a.farag%40inbox.com
> >
> >>> <mailto:hamdy.a.farag at inbox.com<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3ahamdy.a.farag%40inbox.com
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I found the group quiet , so how to participate and get to know people
> >>> here ?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Hamdy
> >>>
> >>> ____________________________________________________________
> >>> Publish your photos in seconds for FREE
> >>> TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.imtoolpack.com%2fdefault.aspx%3frc%3dif4
> >
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Owasp-egypt mailing list
> >>> Owasp-egypt at lists.owasp.org<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3aOwasp-egypt%40lists.owasp.org
> >
> >>> <mailto:Owasp-egypt at lists.owasp.org<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3aOwasp-egypt%40lists.owasp.org
> >
> >>> >
> >>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-egypt<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=https%3a%2f%2flists.owasp.org%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2fowasp-egypt
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is
> that
> >>> we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that
> most
> >>> frightens us. We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous,
> >>> talented, and fabulous?Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child
> of
> >>> God. Your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing
> enlightened
> >>> about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We
> are
> >>> all meant to shine, as children do. We are born to make manifest the
> glory
> >>> of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us, it's in
> everyone. And
> >>> as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people
> permission
> >>> to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence
> >>> automatically liberates others." --Nelson Mandela--
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Owasp-egypt mailing list
> >>> Owasp-egypt at lists.owasp.org<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=mailto%3aOwasp-egypt%40lists.owasp.org
> >
> >>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-egypt<
> https://mail.evision.ws/owa/redir.aspx?C=2b404e5f78fd4b938016d5e13ac96179&URL=https%3a%2f%2flists.owasp.org%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2fowasp-egypt
> >
> >>> <ATT00001..txt>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> Owasp-egypt at lists.owasp.org
> >>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-egypt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
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>
> --
> "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that
> we
> are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most
> frightens us. We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous,
> talented, and fabulous?Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of
> God. Your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing
> enlightened
> about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are
> all meant to shine, as children do. We are born to make manifest the glory
> of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us, it's in everyone.
> And
> as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people
> permission
> to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence
> automatically liberates others." --Nelson Mandela--
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