[Owasp-delhi] [Owasp-Mumbai] Songs.pk can be used to hack Indian Networks!

Bipin Upadhyay muxical.geek at gmail.com
Thu Jan 8 04:59:07 EST 2009


Hello,
Akshay Mulkutkar wrote:
> Yes, we do have a lot of instances of Indian site being hacked by 
> pakistani nationals.
> Also, there's a lot of talk about how skilled the chinese hackers are.
>
> Indians are among the best brains in the industry.
> Isn't is time indian black hats launch a full-on aggressive against 
> the all pakistani establishments?
>
No, it's not! Not to mention that it's childish and stupid.
If you understand and appreciate Gandhiji's decision on on the 
Chauri-Chaura incident the you know what I mean. Violence (and offense 
in general) don't earn you anything in short term, apart from 
illusionary dominance. However, they affect both the parties/societies 
in long run, badly.

This analogy, IMHO, is true for cyber warfare too.

> Offence should be coupled with defence.
>
Yes! It has to be. But defense has a different definition altogether.

--
Regards,
Bipin Upadhyay.
http://projectbee.org/
> Regards,
> Akshay Mulkutkar
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:14 PM, vaibhav aher <vaibhavaher at gmail.com 
> <mailto:vaibhavaher at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello Nilesh,
>     I totally agree with you. There is a cyber war going on ... may be
>     most of them here dont go to ungerground.... where you will see
>     the actual  scenario.
>
>     Regards
>     Vaibhav Aher
>     Security Consultant
>
>
>     On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM, <nileshkumar83 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:nileshkumar83 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Chintan, Yash,
>          
>          
>              I share my views with Mr. Yogesh Badwe that it's not an
>         issue of what the Indian,Pakistani....or African media is
>         saying and against whom. The matter is if there is
>         smoke...there 'might be' fire somewhere. And if not, we as
>         security professionals should remain updated of any fake/true
>         news. Any 'hoax bomb call' is also a matter of great concern.
>          
>         This community is for sharing any fake/unfake news and we
>         should not simply put is as media overhype. I got the news and
>         put here..just simple. At least we can be careful and this
>         kind of thing might occur in the current scenario of Indo-Pak,
>         at least they can intesify at the time being. This is not out
>         of the world thing.
>          
>         Anyways, thanks to all learned people for an enlightening
>         discussion.
>          
>
>          
>         On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:44 AM, chintan dave
>         <davechintan at gmail.com <mailto:davechintan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Hi,
>             @ Nilesh - First of all I would like to thank you to take
>             time off your busy schedule to share news with the group.
>
>             I do not understand what is wrong with us? Why do we just
>             keep on criticizing?
>
>             I think everyone on the group is mature enough to identify
>             the so called "Over hyped" news. If you think that the
>             news is crap, fine, just ignore, no one needs your
>             personal advice on what media should do and what not!
>
>             I guess we all are here to share facts or may be opinions
>             when explicitly solicited by other group members. Its
>             always debatable whether what media reported is correct or
>             not and the reader is "the" judge.
>
>             I'd appreciate if we can stop this bullshit of critizing.
>             If we can't admire people sharing things, lets not
>             discourage them. If its not useful for you, ignore it.
>
>             On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Yash Kadakia
>             <teccoder at gmail.com <mailto:teccoder at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Hi Nilesh,
>
>                  
>
>                 First off, I would not believe anything the Indian (or
>                 most International) media have to say about Cyber
>                 Security, unless they are quoting a reliable _named_
>                 source.
>
>                  
>
>                 Secondly, this is nothing more than the media taking a
>                 simple concept such as a *possibly *infected web-site
>                 and turning it into a  indo-pak issue.
>
>                  
>
>                 As a fact I can tell you that in this last week, I
>                 have run across web-sites from at least 7 different
>                 LARGE group of companies that had their web-sites
>                 compromised and malicious JavaScript injected into it.
>                 The malicious JavaScript was in-turn attempting
>                 drive-by-downloads and common IE exploits to
>                 compromise users. This definitely doesn't mean that
>                 those companies are targeting Indians, Pakistanis or
>                 anyone else. It is simply an IT Incident that is most
>                 likely not connected to politics in any way.
>
>                  
>
>                 --
>
>                 Yash Kadakia
>
>                  
>
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>                 <mailto:owasp-mumbai-bounces at lists.owasp.org>] *On
>                 Behalf Of *nileshkumar83 at gmail.com
>                 <mailto:nileshkumar83 at gmail.com>
>                 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:11 AM
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>                 <mailto:owasp-delhi at lists.owasp.org>;
>                 owasp-mumbai at lists.owasp.org
>                 <mailto:owasp-mumbai at lists.owasp.org>
>                 *Subject:* [Owasp-Mumbai] Songs.pk can be used to hack
>                 Indian Networks!
>
>                  
>
>                 Hi All!
>
>                  
>
>                    I just went through an article this morning that
>                 the hugely polpular song site among Indians
>                 www.songs.pk <http://www.songs.pk/> can be used to
>                 make ypur PCs botnets or zombies by the Pakistani
>                 hackers. So avoid the site for the time being at least!
>
>                  
>
>                 Just have a look at the article:
>
>                  
>
>                 http://www.rediff.com/news/2009/jan/06mumterror-pakistan-india-hackers-internet-cyber-war.htm
>
>
>
>                 -- 
>                 Thanks & Regards,
>                 Nilesh Kumar,
>                 Security Specialist | Governance Risk Compliance
>                 www.linkedin.com/in/nileshkumar83
>                 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nileshkumar83>
>                 Mobile- +91-9891524880
>
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>             -- 
>             Regards,
>             Chintan Dave,
>             KPMG Singapore
>             LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/chintandave
>             Blog:http://davechintan.blogspot.com
>             <http://davechintan.blogspot.com/>
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>
>
>         -- 
>         Thanks & Regards,
>         Nilesh Kumar,
>         Security Specialist | Governance Risk Compliance
>         www.linkedin.com/in/nileshkumar83
>         <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nileshkumar83>
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