[Owasp-cert] Marketing Question Two point five

Leigh Honeywell leigh at hypatia.ca
Wed Jul 30 15:33:25 EDT 2008

LPI has had a split model where they've been offering the cert through
prometric, but also do cheaper proctored pen-and-paper sittings of the
test through local Linux user groups.  That might be something to think


On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 02:15:03PM -0500, Matthew Chalmers wrote:
> I just don't know about any non-fixed price methodology. We could end up
> penalising underprivileged candidates in successful economies, or giving
> undue advantage to privileged candidates in unsuccessful economies. And if
> we ask for some proof of the need for financial assistance, we ask people to
> compromise their own privacy and perhaps dignity. I can't even see us having
> a pricing model based on individual vs. corporate payment, because if it's
> less expensive to pay as an individual, that's what everyone will do, then
> turn around and get reimbursement from their company, to save their company
> money. If we tier pricing by company income, everyone will say they're
> self-employed and make peanuts, then the unscrupulous will still get
> reimbursement from their company.
> I believe instead of us trying to solve this 'problem' up front, we should
> instead let potential candidates come to us with their circumstances
> case-by-case and present their own potential solutions. For example, instead
> of us going to the VA to get approved for GI Bill coverage--a worthy thing
> to do--perhaps we should wait until a GI Bill recipient, or the VA, comes to
> us and asks if we can go through this process. That way we don't have to
> seek out all such programmes, or be accused of playing favourites with them.
> Another argument is, we can't sign up OWASP to lose money. The exam will end
> up costing OWASP a certain amount to administer per individual and
> circumstances. Perhaps it will cost $100 for any given person to write it in
> the U.S.; perhaps it will cost $80 (equivalent) for any given person to
> write it in China. I just can't see us charging these two example candidates
> less than $100 and $80 respectively, no matter their circumstances. And if
> we charge more, we cease to be a 501(c)(3) organisation, don't we?
> Is anyone aware of any current certification that is actually doing
> something other than fixed pricing? How is it handled?
> Matt
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Gary Palmer <owasp at getmymail.org> wrote:
> >  Ask the question another way, should the price be set relative to a
> > countries economy such that people who pay for the exam are inclined to
> > study and work for it?  The converse is the exam is so cheap just pay for
> > several and keep taking it until familiarity or repeat questions lead to
> > success...
> >
> > And that leads to "If I fail the exam, how quickly can I take it again and
> > should there be a discount?"  I vote for a couple or few months and no
> > discount.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* owasp-cert-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:
> > owasp-cert-bounces at lists.owasp.org] *On Behalf Of *james at architectbook.com
> > *Sent:* Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:45 AM
> > *To:* Owasp-cert at lists.owasp.org
> > *Subject:* [Owasp-cert] Marketing Question Two
> >
> > Should the price of certification exams be fixed regardless of country or
> > should it take into consideration the economics of each country?
> >
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