[Owasp-cert] Diversification

Matthew Chalmers matthew.chalmers at owasp.org
Fri Jul 25 19:05:35 EDT 2008

I agree. I think if we have a document of what the cert project will and
won't do this should be a bullet in the list, however it's best phrased.

Also--and I tried to cross post something from the webappsec list but
haven't seen it here yet--we should make sure not to have anything that
would confuse anyone because it's "just not done" in their contry, for
example something simple like using an email address or SSN for an
identifier, or asking a question about that--there are no SSNs (exactly)
outside the US and in some countries emails can't be used as identifiers
because it's considered personal.

We just have to make sure when questions are edited/proofed whoever does it
is aware of what to look for. Unfortunately the bigger the group of question
editors the harder it will be to maintain question 'secrecy' if that is a
goal (as it is with most certs).


On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:10 AM, <james at architectbook.com> wrote:

> No, diversification is a little different than translation. I want to avoid
> US vs international interpretations on questions. For example, in the US we
> say Elevator while folks across the pond will say Lift. Stuff like that...
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-cert] Diversification
> From: "Christian Wenz" <chw at hauser-wenz.de>
> Date: Thu, July 24, 2008 8:29 am
> To: <owasp-cert at lists.owasp.org>
>  You mean diversification by providing several flavors of the exam? Hmm,
> not sure about that. More language flavors usually means higher costs. How
> about just avoiding ambiguous wordings; often that's something the
> psychometrics also enforce. It might make more sense to focus on the key
> languages for exams. Other companies providing exams either only provide an
> English version or they translate it into Japanese, then Spanish,
> Portuguese, French, and German. I guess that for a first version English is
> good enough. Or maybe I misunderstood your intentions completely ;)
> --Christian
> I believe diversification is important and want to ensure that we aren't
> doing anything that is either US-centric or European centric and hope to
> find someone from India, Pakistan, Israel, China, South America, etc to
> participate. I pinged several folks at work and asked there perspective on
> certification, and they noted the UK english vs US english challenge that
> sometimes causes misunderstanding and therefore wanted to solve for this via
> diversification.
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