[Owasp-cape-town] [zacon-comm] Yet Another Censor Ship Bill (Got Until Thursday to Comment)

Marco Slaviero marco at thinkst.com
Mon May 23 09:47:23 UTC 2016

I'll take a contrarian view on this. I don't view ZaCon as the local EFF
(US crowd rather than the red berets), and entering the political space
will change the dynamic of this group.

For example, if someone supports a particular stance but ZaCon issues a
statement in opposition, then that person would be (in effect) forced out
for political views. For a list with technical underpinnings, that would be
an undesirable outcome in my view.

I think it's also somewhat moot since ZaCon exists solely as a mailing
list. I can't see statements issued at this stage carrying any weight.

Perhaps what these debates are suggesting is that there is space for a
local EFF, with a specific focus on activism and lobbying? If R2K isn't
fulfilling that role, they might be open to expanding into that space, or a
new org could rise.


On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:32 AM Charl van der Walt <charl at sensepost.com>

> Sounds like a good idea.
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> On 23 May 2016, at 11:27, Alapan <alapan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Given the number of issues raised in the past few months, I am wondering
> whether ZaCon should adopt some process where
> a) we as a community can consider whether we would like to take a position
> b) if we do want to take a position, write a common statement
> Obviously not everything should be considered or will be relevant; but it
> would make sense to have a community view than individual views.
> My 2 cents
> A
> On Monday, 23 May 2016, Charl van der Walt <charl at sensepost.com> wrote:
>> Is R2K the best / only channel to express support on? Anyone else running
>> with this that we can get behind? Nothing against R2K - just wondering
>> whole else is advocating…
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>> On 22 May 2016, at 20:43, Dominic White <dominic at white.za.net> wrote:
>> R2K's been on this one since last year I think:
>> http://www.r2k.org.za/2015/08/21/fpb-unmoved-by-r2k-on-censorship-policy/
>> It forms part of their "Hands Off Our Internet" campaign:
>> http://www.r2k.org.za/handsoffourinternet/
>> On 22 May 2016, at 5:28 PM, Timo <timogoosen at runbox.com> wrote:
>> Our government is trying to sneak in another censorship bill. I didn't
>> read anything
>> about it online until I picked up the Friday Cape Argus. On the front
>> page there was a story on the bill.
>> " The bill requires anyone who creates, produces, publishes or
>> advertises any publication that contains sexual conduct, violates or shows
>> disrespect for the right to human dignity of any person, degrades a person,
>> or constitutes incitement to cause harm, to submit it for examination and
>> classification by the board."
>> http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/news/cyber-censors-hovering-2024009
>> "
>> “The (FPB) Act was passed in 1996 when there wasn’t much internet and
>> electronic communication. We now operate in a completely different
>> landscape and the bill is the FPB’s attempt to modernise the way they
>> operate for online world.”
>> ....
>> It allows the board to classify and regulate the distribution of online
>> content to ensure cyber safety for children and that children are protected
>> from disturbing and harmful content on social media and mobile platforms.
>> "
>> You can read about the bill here:
>> http://www.fpb.org.za/profile-fpb/legislation1/594-redraft-fpb-online-regulation-policy-2016/file
>> What are your thoughts about this bill? Are you guys planning on
>> commenting?
>> I think we should be scared about any bill that is pushed to be put into
>> action so quickly.
>> I also think we should think of the consequences of such a bill. Imagine
>> if I wanted to release a video
>> of the Marikana massacre then I would have to submit it to some board for
>> review. This reminds me
>> a great deal of the apartheid government when pornography was censored
>> etc and when
>> the government could very conveniently decide to ban books that they
>> thought weren't appropriate
>> for mass consumption.
>> I challenge you all to read over this bill and to make the phone ring or
>> send as many emails as possible with comments.
>> Regards.
>> Timo
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