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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Re #3, it’s not quite that
simple. You have to factor in the salary of a skilled penetration tester versus
a tool operator.  That’s a pretty significant cost differential.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> owasp-boston-bounces@lists.owasp.org
[mailto:owasp-boston-bounces@lists.owasp.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Javed Ikbal<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> owasp-boston@lists.owasp.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Owasp-boston] Larry Suto with an updated Application
Security Scanner Report<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Observations:<br>
1. Fully agree that these scanners can not find all the issues on their own
test websites. When questioned, one vendor spun it thus: &quot;This means we
are not rigging the test&quot;<br>
<br>
2. I did not see the point of the debate in 2007 because 90% of users have no
clue what to do with these scanners and just point and shoot them. Most
training they get is 1 hour with the SE so I am perfectly willing to accept
that as the methodology.<br>
<br>
3. While purists may not like this, I would have liked to see a
price/performance comparison included. Yes, Burp Suite does not support
JavaScript and has other problems; but for $200, I contend that for a small
company and a skilled user it offers great value<br>
<br>
Javed<br>
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On 2/4/2010 8:52 AM, Laverty, Patrick wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Has anyone had a chance to read it yet?&nbsp; Or have
opinions on it?&nbsp; I know last time he released his report (2007), it was
widely criticized.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>If you haven’t seen it, it is here:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://ha.ckers.org/files/Accuracy_and_Time_Costs_of_Web_App_Scanners.pdf">http://ha.ckers.org/files/Accuracy_and_Time_Costs_of_Web_App_Scanners.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>if you’re worried about a link to a pdf in an email like
this, you can see it on this page:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100203/accuracy-and-time-costs-of-web-application-security-scanner-report/">http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100203/accuracy-and-time-costs-of-web-application-security-scanner-report/</a><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>As I am currently in the market for a scanning tool, I’m
looking for any and all information from all sources on this sort of thing.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Patrick <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Owasp-boston mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="mailto:Owasp-boston@lists.owasp.org">Owasp-boston@lists.owasp.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-boston">https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-boston</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>  <o:p></o:p></pre>

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