<div dir="ltr">Dear All,<div>Thank you for your understanding.  We are working through this situation in a positive and very open manner to limit miscommunication.  As soon as we have a solution, we will be pleased to communicate and share more about AppSec EU.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your patience,</div><div>Karen </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jim Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Mark,</p>
    <p>I concur with Karen. I am holding off on discussing my concerns
      about this issue over social media and have encouraged others
      involved to do the same while leadership works out this issue.</p>
    <p>Aloha and Happy Holidays,</p>
    <p>Jim</p><div><div class="h5">
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    <div class="m_-4455345885231528460moz-cite-prefix">On 12/29/17 1:16 AM, Karen Staley
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      <div dir="ltr">Dear Mark,
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        <div>It is nice to meet you.  Thank you for reaching out to us.<br>
          <div>I support Avi's request to keep things calm and allow us
            to work through this situation together with the Israel
            chapters , community and the OWASP BOD. Once we have worked
            through the situation, we will be able to share more.</div>
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        <div>Thank you for your  patience.</div>
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        <div>Sincerely,</div>
        <div>Karen </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Mark
          Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark.miller@owasp.org" target="_blank">mark.miller@owasp.org</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">All,
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              <div>I have heard from Avi, who has asked to hold off on
                the broadcast until after the new year. This will give
                the board and the AppSecEU Israel committee time to talk
                through the sitiuation. Let's  be in touch next week and
                discuss the best way to proceed.</div>
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              <div>Best regards,</div>
              <div>Mark</div>
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                    PM, Tom Brennan - OWASP <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomb@owasp.org" target="_blank">tomb@owasp.org</a>></span>
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                        <div dir="auto">No thank you Mark. The board
                          meeting that was recorded as they are monthly
                          for the last decade documents the situation as
                          well as the prior (6) months of staff updates.</div>
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                        <div dir="auto">Dec Meeting </div>
                        <div dir="auto"><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1i2zdQ6QVFoWh06TBuJy2Zo5bvp9M50zJ" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/open?<wbr>id=1i2zdQ6QVFoWh06TBuJy2Zo5bvp<wbr>9M50zJ</a><br>
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                        <div dir="auto">Prior</div>
                        <div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Board#tab=Historical_Meeting_Archive" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.ph<wbr>p/Board#tab=Historical_Meeting<wbr>_Archive</a><br>
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                        <div dir="auto">This is being actively worked on
                          with the OWASP Executive Director Karen and
                          Chairman. (Matt/2017 and Martin/2018) and the
                          associated members of the newly elected board.
                          If they (the Chair or ED) wish to utilize the
                          OWASP podcast platform they will reach out to
                          you. Cc board list.</div>
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                              <div>On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:47 PM Mark
                                Miller <<a href="mailto:mark.miller@owasp.org" target="_blank">mark.miller@owasp.org</a>>
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                                  <div>It's an odd time for OWASP when I
                                    have to propose a podcast in
                                    reaction to the unprecedented
                                    decision to cancel/move AppSecEU
                                    Israel, but that's where we stand as
                                    of now. Avi, are you available for a
                                    recording Thursday or Friday this
                                    week? All of us except Jim (Hawaii)
                                    are in relatively the same time
                                    zone. </div>
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                                  <div>Jim, Tom and Chris, we'll figure
                                    which of you would be best to be on
                                    the show with Avi. I will invite
                                    Karen and tell her she's welcome to
                                    bring one person for support, if
                                    she'd like. We will do the broadcast
                                    whether or not she accepts the
                                    invitation.</div>
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                                  <div>Avi, this is a chance for you and
                                    your team to have the soapbox for an
                                    hour and get clarification on Karen
                                    and the board's decision. It will
                                    also give you a chance to propose an
                                    alternative conference, which looks
                                    like it's well on the way to being a
                                    community supported event, with Jim
                                    acting as the town crier while
                                    running around in his underwear in
                                    Tel Aviv... a keynote not to be
                                    missed.</div>
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                                        DevOps Group on LinkedIn (57K
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