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    Timo,<br>
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    +1 I think this is a very VERY good point. 50$/month is nice - but a
    dedicated and happy volunteer who believes in the mission and wants
    to help the cause - that's better than 10000 inactive paid members
    any day.<br>
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    Aloha,<br>
    Jim<br>
    <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/17/16 1:26 AM, Timo Goosen wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Don't know if you added this, but I'd like to add:
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        <div>What can we do to boost OWASP volunteers as opposed to
          members?</div>
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        <div>> Membership - why do many chapters have a $0 balance
          for memberships when they have members (ajv)</div>
        <div>On this point, well many of the chapters are in 3rd world
          countries. I am from South Africa for example</div>
        <div>and the economical situation is not very good here at the
          moment. </div>
        <div>I think we should be glad we have chapters in 3rd world
          countries as opposed to having nothing.</div>
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        <div>Also you can run a chapter on little or no funds if you
          have enough enthusiasm!</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>Hooray for all the chapters in 3rd world countries!</div>
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        <div>Regards.</div>
        <div>Timo</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:22 AM, Andrew
          van der Stock <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:vanderaj@owasp.org" target="_blank">vanderaj@owasp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">FYI - on balances. See Noreen's mail below as
              well. 
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                <div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message
                  ----------<br>
                  From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Alison Shrader</b>
                  <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:alison.mcnamee@owasp.org"
                      target="_blank">alison.mcnamee@owasp.org</a>></span><br>
                  Date: Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 4:36 AM<br>
                  Subject: RE: OWASP Membership<br>
                  To: Noreen Whysel <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org"
                    target="_blank">noreen.whysel@owasp.org</a>>,
                  Kelly Santalucia <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:kelly.santalucia@owasp.org"
                    target="_blank">kelly.santalucia@owasp.org</a>><br>
                  Cc: Andrew van der Stock <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:vanderaj@owasp.org" target="_blank">vanderaj@owasp.org</a>>,
                  Paul Ritchie <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org" target="_blank">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a>><br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Yes,
                        the zero balance ones have either spent all of
                        their money, or are inactive.  They shouldn’t be
                        showing up on the spreadsheet (that is a problem
                        with my Quickbooks export I need to fix).</span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">For
                        Recife, it is inactive.</span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Alison
                        Shrader</span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">OWASP
                        Accounting</span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">1200C
                        Agora Dr, #232</span></p>
                    <span class=""><span>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Bel
                            Air, MD 21014</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">USA</span></p>
                      </span></span>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="tel:1-410-440-5430" value="+14104405430"
                          target="_blank">1-410-440-5430</a></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                        Noreen Whysel [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org"
                          target="_blank">noreen.whysel@owasp.org</a>] <br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:24 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Kelly Santalucia<br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> Andrew van der Stock; Alison Shrader;
                        Paul Ritchie<br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: OWASP Membership</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Some other thoughts on
                          negative and zero balances.</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">The Recife balance should
                            have been zeroed out at the beginning of the
                            year. The board voted in October to not have
                            negative balances which puts the onus on
                            both chapter leaders and the staff that
                            approves expenses to ensure that they don't
                            go over budget on approved expenditures. As
                            for Recife in particular, my understanding
                            is that this chapter went inactive in May
                            2014 and was marked as inactive during my
                            2015 audit.</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Why chapters might have
                            zero balances if they have memberships?
                            Kelly mentioned the most likely scenario.
                            They spent it all. Another possibility may
                            be for new chapters. It is possible that
                            someone who joined as a member of one
                            chapter would start a new one closer to
                            them. Membership allocation goes to a
                            chapter or project at the time that a person
                            joins. If they and any other paid members
                            decide to join that new chapter, they can
                            request to change their allocation, but the
                            share of the allocation would not hit the
                            new chapter until they renew.</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Noreen Whysel</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Community Manager</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">OWASP Foundation</p>
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