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    That makes sense.<br>
    <br>
    - Jim<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/19/15 6:12 PM, Noreen Whysel
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAGG7Ggy0=zswnJAWetsF0zF1jijuxkuD+XVOy5b+5p9v83FMZQ@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Yes. I believe Claudia was working on that.</div>
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        <div>
          <div class="gmail_signature">
            <div dir="ltr">
              <div>Noreen Whysel</div>
              <div>Community Manager</div>
              <div>OWASP Foundation</div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Jim
          Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> May I suggest that
              the project folk work on that one...  :)<br>
              <br>
              - Jim
              <div>
                <div class="h5"><br>
                  <br>
                  <div>On 10/19/15 5:59 PM, Fabio Cerullo wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite"> Thanks Noreen. Could you
                    please also come up with a definition for active
                    (project) leader?
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                              <div>Fabio Cerullo</div>
                              <div>Global Board Member</div>
                              OWASP Foundation
                              <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="https://www.owasp.org"
                                  target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
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                          <div>On 19 Oct 2015, at 4:51 p.m., Noreen
                            Whysel <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org"
                              target="_blank">noreen.whysel@owasp.org</a>>

                            wrote:</div>
                          <br>
                          <div>
                            <div dir="ltr">Here are the links to these
                              chapters:
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Active Chapter Definition:</div>
                              <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Chapter_Handbook/Chapter_2:_Mandatory_Chapter_Rules"
                                  target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Chapter_Handbook/Chapter_2:_Mandatory_Chapter_Rules</a></div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Active Chapter Leader Definition:</div>
                              <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Chapter_Handbook/Chapter_5:_Governance"
                                  target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Chapter_Handbook/Chapter_5:_Governance</a><br>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>The definitions could go before the
                                Contact Us section here:</div>
                              <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Chapter_Handbook/Chapter_1:_Handbook_Overview"
                                  target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Chapter_Handbook/Chapter_1:_Handbook_Overview</a><br>
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                              <div>
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                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                    <div>Noreen Whysel</div>
                                    <div>Community Manager</div>
                                    <div>OWASP Foundation</div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 19,
                                2015 at 11:49 AM, Noreen Whysel <span
                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org"
                                    target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org">noreen.whysel@owasp.org</a></a>></span>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr">I have added my
                                    definition of Active Chapter to the
                                    lead paragraph of Chapter 2 of the
                                    Chapter Leader Handbook.
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I have added the definition of
                                      an Active Leader to the first
                                      bullet under 5.1 Leadership in
                                      Chapter 5 of the Chapter Leader
                                      Handbook.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Any references to Active
                                      Chapter or Active Chapter Leader
                                      should link to these definitions.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Alternatively (or in addition),
                                      we could put a section on
                                      Definitions in Chapter 1: Handbook
                                      Overview.</div>
                                  </div>
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                                        <div>
                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                            <div>Noreen Whysel</div>
                                            <div>Community Manager</div>
                                            <div>OWASP Foundation</div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <br>
                                    </span>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri,
                                          Oct 16, 2015 at 6:06 PM,
                                          Noreen Whysel <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org"
                                              target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org">noreen.whysel@owasp.org</a></a>></span>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                              <div>Ok. Just a
                                                clarification. Since
                                                chapter leaders can't
                                                update SF it can't be
                                                part of the requirement.
                                                Wiki page and Mailman
                                                admin is all they need.</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>;)<span><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <span
                                                    style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Noreen
                                                    Whysel<br>
                                                  </span><span
                                                    style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);font-size:13pt">Community
                                                    Manager</span>
                                                  <div><span
                                                      style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">OWASP
                                                      Foundation</span></div>
                                                </span></div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                    On Oct 16, 2015, at
                                                    5:53 PM, Paul
                                                    Ritchie <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a></a>>

                                                    wrote:<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </div>
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                                                    <div>
                                                      <div dir="ltr">Thanks,

                                                        good feedback.
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>Notice
                                                          locations - In
                                                          addition to
                                                          buried in
                                                          handbook, I
                                                          think the
                                                          second highest
                                                          priority would
                                                          be to
                                                          highlight that
                                                          definition on
                                                          a chapter
                                                          homepage.  
                                                           More then
                                                          that is to
                                                          many places.</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>2 meetings
                                                          before
                                                          $500....No, I
                                                          was just
                                                          trying to
                                                          stimulate the
                                                          thought
                                                          process. 
                                                          Board did
                                                          comment that
                                                          they thought a
                                                          first meeting
                                                          would be
                                                          needed anyway
                                                          to generate a
                                                          second leader.</div>
                                                        <div>So....if
                                                          you and want
                                                          to make this
                                                          decision
                                                          NOW....I'm OK
                                                          with   1)
                                                          complete all
                                                          your 'normal'
                                                          new chapter
                                                          paperwork,
                                                          plus 2) must
                                                          have a second
                                                          leader
                                                          officially
                                                          named on wiki
                                                          and SF
                                                          database.</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>3.  Re
                                                          Ghana - I will
                                                          expect all
                                                          staff to 'hold
                                                          the line'  
                                                          $500 is
                                                          designed as an
                                                          incentive to
                                                          "be active"
                                                          'get shared'
                                                          leadership and
                                                          'be
                                                          responsive.  
                                                           If there is
                                                          no
                                                          update....there
                                                          is no money.  
                                                           If he is
                                                          responsive and
                                                          meets
                                                          requirements....wow
                                                          = incentive
                                                          money.</div>
                                                        <div>I imagine
                                                          there may be
                                                          several of
                                                          these....either
                                                          not
                                                          responsive, or
                                                          can't find
                                                          that 2nd
                                                          leader.</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>Paul</div>
                                                      </div>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Best
                                                          Regards, Paul
                                                          Ritchie</div>
                                                          <div>OWASP
                                                          Executive
                                                          Director</div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a></a></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Fri, Oct 16,
                                                          2015 at 2:36
                                                          PM, Noreen
                                                          Whysel OWASP <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org"
                                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org">noreen.whysel@owasp.org</a></a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          dir="auto">
                                                          <div>Q1
                                                          chapter
                                                          handbook under
                                                          governance
                                                          chapter only.
                                                          Everywhere
                                                          else we
                                                          mention active
                                                          leaders can
                                                          link to that
                                                          section but o
                                                          don't think it
                                                          is wise to
                                                          have it all
                                                          over the place
                                                          in case it
                                                          changes over
                                                          time. Projects
                                                          handbook
                                                          probably has a
                                                          place that
                                                          makes sense
                                                          where it
                                                          discusses
                                                          leaders.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Implementation: </div>
                                                          <div>-notice
                                                          to leader list
                                                          and next news
                                                          flash</div>
                                                          <div>-email
                                                          alert to all
                                                          leaders (same
                                                          list as the
                                                          monthly
                                                          finding
                                                          announcement)
                                                          and include
                                                          info on how to
                                                          make sure all
                                                          your leaders
                                                          are on the
                                                          Owasp-leaders
                                                          list by adding
                                                          them to
                                                          Mailman admin
                                                          field.</div>
                                                          <div>-edit new
                                                          leader welcome
                                                          and Chapter
                                                          Active?
                                                          Templates on
                                                          SF.</div>
                                                          <div>-personal
                                                          email to any
                                                          leader who has
                                                          discussed
                                                          upcoming
                                                          events or
                                                          funding
                                                          requirements.</div>
                                                          <div>-probably
                                                          should do a
                                                          joint hangout
                                                          with Tobias
                                                          and a 24/7
                                                          Podcast to
                                                          discuss the
                                                          proposals and
                                                          what it means
                                                          for chapter
                                                          and project
                                                          leaders when
                                                          the votes are
                                                          complete.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Q2 So
                                                          chapters would
                                                          be required to
                                                          go out of
                                                          pocket or find
                                                          a local
                                                          sponsor for
                                                          two meetings
                                                          before they
                                                          can get
                                                          funding? Is
                                                          this a new
                                                          addition that
                                                          the board came
                                                          up with or
                                                          just something
                                                          we are
                                                          knocking
                                                          around on
                                                          staff? <span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">I think this would be
                                                          prohibitive in
                                                          some areas. </span>It's

                                                          a bit Catch
                                                          22. I fear
                                                          that a sponsor
                                                          would want to
                                                          know that a
                                                          chapter is a
                                                          going concern
                                                          before putting
                                                          out funds. At
                                                          the same time
                                                          a new chapter
                                                          leader is only
                                                          going to put
                                                          himself out of
                                                          he knows he
                                                          has foundation
                                                          funding to
                                                          host a
                                                          successful
                                                          meeting and
                                                          draw
                                                          attendance.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Btw at
                                                          present Ghana
                                                          would not
                                                          qualify for
                                                          funding
                                                          because he
                                                          hasn't updated
                                                          the wiki in
                                                          two years. I
                                                          have told him
                                                          that he needs
                                                          to do it but
                                                          his response
                                                          is sort of
                                                          Yeah, Yeah or
                                                          no response.
                                                          That worries
                                                          me
                                                          particularly
                                                          since he is
                                                          asking me to
                                                          help find
                                                          speakers.<span><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Noreen Whysel
                                                          <div>Community
                                                          Manager</div>
                                                          <div>OWASP
                                                          Foundation</div>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Oct 16,
                                                          2015, at 5:10
                                                          PM, Paul
                                                          Ritchie <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org"
                                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a></a>>

                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Hi....OK,

                                                          if thats the
                                                          jist of it and
                                                          it covers the
                                                          Johanna
                                                          comments per
                                                          Josh's
                                                          email...that
                                                          I'm good.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>The next
                                                          step is
                                                          cutting and
                                                          pasting this
                                                          into our
                                                          'official
                                                          communication'
                                                          about these
                                                          changes to the
                                                          community.  
                                                          Sharing that
                                                          draft
                                                          implementation
                                                          plan at least
                                                          internally
                                                          with staff,
                                                          getting
                                                          consensus on
                                                          timeline and
                                                          then
                                                          launching.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>A few,
                                                          like proposal
                                                          #4 allow the
                                                          $500 to be
                                                          allocated at
                                                          any NEW
                                                          Chapter, <u>effective

                                                          immediately</u>,
                                                          once it
                                                          completes all
                                                          its new
                                                          chapter tasks
                                                          and has 2
                                                          Active
                                                          leaders.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Q1  Have
                                                          you considered
                                                          where and when
                                                          you would post
                                                          this new
                                                          information on
                                                          the wiki? 
                                                          Chapter
                                                          handbook is
                                                          fine, but
                                                          other
                                                          locations....and
                                                          then your
                                                          timeline to
                                                          complete, ie.
                                                          how will you
                                                          implement?  is
                                                          the basis of
                                                          my question.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Q2..Must
                                                          a new Chapter
                                                          hold its first
                                                          meeting, or
                                                          perhaps 2
                                                          meetings to
                                                          qualify for
                                                          the "new
                                                          chapter funds?</div>
                                                          <div>Or, for
                                                          proposal #4,
                                                           is our
                                                          implementation
                                                          plan to ensure
                                                          they meet the
                                                          minimum
                                                          requirement of
                                                          2 leaders
                                                          defined, and
                                                          then all
                                                          normal new
                                                          Chapter
                                                          information
                                                          documented in
                                                          Wiki and Sales
                                                          force...without

                                                          needing a
                                                          requirement
                                                          for a 1st
                                                          meeting.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Net net
                                                          Noreen, I will
                                                          be documenting
                                                          and drafting
                                                          up the
                                                          implementation
                                                          project on the
                                                          budgeting
                                                          proposals,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I was
                                                          looking to
                                                          have you lead
                                                          the
                                                          implementation
                                                          of the new
                                                          chapter
                                                          funding
                                                          communication
                                                          &
                                                          rules...aligned
                                                          with Claudia
                                                          re: new
                                                          projects.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Of
                                                          course, I'm
                                                          totally open
                                                          to more ideas
                                                          if you have
                                                          some other
                                                          ideas on How
                                                          best to define
                                                          &
                                                          communicate
                                                          'what was just
                                                          approved' and
                                                          how we will
                                                          implement?  
                                                          It just needs
                                                          to get done
                                                          and I want to
                                                          confirm owners
                                                          for each
                                                          portion of
                                                          work effort.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Paul</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
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                                                          <div>Best
                                                          Regards, Paul
                                                          Ritchie</div>
                                                          <div>OWASP
                                                          Executive
                                                          Director</div>
                                                          <div><a
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                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Fri, Oct 16,
                                                          2015 at 1:21
                                                          PM, Noreen
                                                          Whysel OWASP <span
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                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>My
                                                          impression is
                                                          that the board
                                                          is satisfied
                                                          with my
                                                          definition of
                                                          an active
                                                          leader. Is
                                                          there
                                                          something
                                                          missing from
                                                          your POV from
                                                          these two
                                                          requirements:</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>-Must
                                                          have contact
                                                          information
                                                          clearly
                                                          accessible
                                                          from
                                                          chapter/project/initiative
                                                          page.</div>
                                                          <div>-Must be
                                                          responsive to
                                                          inquiries
                                                          (i.e. Reply
                                                          within 7
                                                          business days)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Noreen Whysel
                                                          <div>Community
                                                          Manager</div>
                                                          <div>OWASP
                                                          Foundation</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Oct 16,
                                                          2015, at 1:13
                                                          PM, Paul
                                                          Ritchie <<a
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                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Hi

                                                          Noreen - I see
                                                          your email
                                                          below but all
                                                          my impressions
                                                          are that the
                                                          BoD is
                                                          expected us on
                                                          Staff to
                                                          "lead" this
                                                          discussion.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div>Fabio
                                                          isn't going to
                                                          do it....and
                                                          since 'we'
                                                          will be
                                                          implementing
                                                          and answering
                                                          all chapter
                                                          level
                                                          questions,
                                                          than WE , and
                                                          by functional
                                                          responsibility....You,

                                                          are the one to
                                                          summarize
                                                          responses and
                                                          propose final
                                                          definition of
                                                          Active Leader.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Can you
                                                          do that Monday
                                                          or Tuesday at
                                                          the latest. </div>
                                                          <div>Basically
                                                          send out the
                                                          preferred
                                                          definition, as
                                                          a draft, that
                                                          would allow
                                                          you or me to
                                                          make a pretty
                                                          clear decision
                                                          if the leader
                                                          is
                                                          Active...with
                                                          a minimum of
                                                          potential
                                                          dispute.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><i>Noreen
                                                          Whysel</i></div>
                                                          <div><i>5:16
                                                          am (1 day ago)</i></div>
                                                          <div><i>to
                                                          Fabio, OWASP </i><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><i>I have
                                                          given my
                                                          suggestions.
                                                          When you have
                                                          agreed on a
                                                          final
                                                          definition I
                                                          will
                                                          incorporate it
                                                          into the
                                                          Chapter Leader
                                                          Handbook. </i></div>
                                                          <div><i><br>
                                                          </i></div>
                                                          <div><i>It is
                                                          also important
                                                          to consider
                                                          Claudia and
                                                          Johanna's
                                                          definition of
                                                          an active
                                                          project and
                                                          active project
                                                          leader. I
                                                          presume it is
                                                          similar, ie,
                                                          meets minimum
                                                          requirements/responsive,

                                                          but not sure
                                                          if different
                                                          levels of
                                                          projects would
                                                          have different
                                                          requirements.</i></div>
                                                          <div><i>Noreen </i><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Best
                                                          Regards, Paul
                                                          Ritchie</div>
                                                          <div>OWASP
                                                          Executive
                                                          Director</div>
                                                          <div><a
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                                                          <div>BAsic</div>
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