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    > These are just suggestions. I believe that the only thing I 'm
    suggesting is just actions and less meetings about decisions to take
    actions.<br>
    <br>
    That is often an irresponsible thing to do as a board member. The
    board votes on things. I cannot just change policy on my own and
    demand that chapters take actions in the middle of a conflict. <br>
    <br>
    The chapter lead was just following policy. There are edges in this
    policy that need to be discussed and maybe even voted on. <br>
    <br>
    So rather than my just playing King and making decisions on my own,
    I'm taking this to the board for discussion and then a vote if once
    is needed.<br>
    <br>
    I'm sorry this is frustrating but I am trying to be responsible
    here.<br>
    <br>
    - Jim<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/31/15 2:37 PM, johanna curiel
      curiel wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CACxry_2a=mHAWYX2z87FQb7zfD_r4UOsdL-p9My-sGV4ufL5Pw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Jim
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>These are just suggestions. I believe that the only thing I
          'm suggesting is just actions and less meetings about
          decisions to take actions.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>What is the general opinion about the David Rook issue? My
          impression is that a mistake has been done, so why not correct
          that as soon as possible instead of looking at laws/adapt
          laws, take decisions ...etc..zzzz.  </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>If thats not the case then please ignore my suggestion(s).</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Hope you get my point. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Johanna</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Jim
          Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Johanna,<br>
              <br>
              I am confused by this email.<br>
              <br>
              On one hand you as that the board get directly involved
              with a chapter matter and force a specific action at the
              board level.<br>
              <br>
              "I think the board should consider the following actions.
              Place David's presentation back on OWASP wiki pages."<br>
              <br>
              Then, shortly below that request, you ask that the board
              focus on other issues and not get involved in these
              matters.<br>
              <br>
              "Please be more pragmatic, I think I speak for the
              community when I say we would  like to see the members of
              the board more busy trying to focus on the OWASP mission
              with actions plans instead giving to much time to discuss
              rules, change rules or chase rule breakers"<br>
              <br>
              This is where I feel a bit thrashed. On one hand, members
              of this chapter as well as other members of the community
              specifically called <u><b>me</b></u> out in a very public
              manner to get involved in this specific situation. This
              was asked of me even after I asked those involved to go to
              staff first with this issue.<br>
              <br>
              Then, after I am involved in an issue that is already
              filled with conflict, I get comments such as "the board
              should be doing better things". :)<br>
              <br>
              Johanna, I agree that there are other avenues of OWASP
              that are important. But when multiple members of the
              community ask me to get involved in and weigh in on
              certain issues, I will almost always do so. In this
              manner, I suggested that (1) they go to staff first - and
              if that did not work to resolve the issue - then (2) email
              the entire board, not just call out one member over social
              media.<br>
              <br>
              So while I understand that you are fairly upset with many
              aspects of the foundation, including this situation, I
              want you do know that I did my best to act properly in the
              middle of a very sticky and difficult decision.<br>
              <br>
              Regards,<br>
              <pre cols="72">-- 
Jim Manico
Global Board Member
OWASP Foundation
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.owasp.org" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a>
Join me at AppSecUSA 2015!</pre>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <div>On 8/31/15 1:54 PM, johanna curiel curiel wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13px">>The
                    speaker agreement as it stands today is pretty
                    clear.</span><span style="font-size:13px">I think we
                    need to follow the rules as they are now or change
                    them.</span><span style="font-size:13px">I am
                    putting this topic on the agenda for the board
                    meeting in a few weeks for discussion and will keep
                    you posted.</span><br>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>I think the board should consider the following
                    actions</div>
                  <div>
                    <ul>
                      <li>Place David's presentation back on OWASP wiki
                        pages. There is no sales pitch here in my
                        opinion. The only thing promoted is that a Riot
                        Game employee  has a security engineer using
                        OWASP bets practices.Isn't that good for OWASP?
                        What if instead of Riot Games was Google, or
                        other big techno name..would it you find that
                        positive for owasp image? (PCI using OWASP
                        testing guide is the equivalent, lets not forget
                        who expensive is to become a QSA auditor...)</li>
                    </ul>
                  </div>
                  <div>Evaluate the added value to the community on the
                    talks allowed to be presented at APPSEC/Chapter /Day
                    Presentations based on:</div>
                  <div>
                    <ul>
                      <li>Is the subject of the talk trying
                        to persuade the audience to buy or use a service
                        or product with a commercial value?(this is
                        definitely a no go)<br>
                      </li>
                      <li>Is there an open source component being
                        presented or 'best practice' in the talk that we
                        could disregard the fact that the company doing
                        the presentation could have a <i>slightly</i> commercial
                         interest? (Docker for example is open source
                        but has commercial activities on the same
                        product as the open source one and its use can
                        make applications indeed more secure, but so
                        does McAfee or any other 'commercial security
                        vendor' product trying to make software more
                        safe...however Docker is also available as  open
                        source opposed to mcAfee</li>
                    </ul>
                    Last but not least recommendation:<br>
                    <ul>
                      <li>Please, do not apply rules as a black and
                        white /all or nothing decision factor. Each case
                        should be evaluated based on the content and
                        context before taking hard decisions, otherwise
                        you will busy most of your time during board
                        meetings changing laws adding bylaws, voting,
                         because 'the rule' broken/didn't work (latest
                        example Fabio with 75% assistance issue when he
                        could not assist due to time-zone issues). </li>
                    </ul>
                    <ul>
                      <li>Please be more pragmatic, I think I speak for
                        the community when I say we would  like to see
                        the members of the board more busy trying to
                        focus on the OWASP mission with actions plans
                        instead giving to much time to discuss  rules,
                        change rules or chase rule breakers. <br>
                      </li>
                    </ul>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div> In the end "by their fruits you shall know
                    them"(not by missing the 75% attendance ratio or not
                    attending live an OWASP board meeting 😁)</div>
                  <div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Cheers</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Johanna</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div><br>
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                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:56
                    PM, Jim Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org"
                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org">jim.manico@owasp.org</a></a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="auto">
                        <div>Fair comments. I think we need to follow
                          the rules as they are now or change them. The
                          speaker agreement as it stands today is pretty
                          clear. I am putting this topic on the agenda
                          for the board meeting in a few weeks for
                          discussion and will keep you posted.</div>
                        <span>
                          <div><br>
                            <div>--</div>
                            <div>Jim Manico</div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <div style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                  <div><span
                                      style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Global

                                      Board Member</span></div>
                                  <span
                                    style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">OWASP

                                    Foundation</span>
                                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="https://www.owasp.org/"
                                      style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"
                                      target="_blank"><font
                                        color="#000000">https://www.owasp.org</font></a></div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div><span
                                  style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Join

                                  me at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://appsecusa.org/"
                                    target="_blank">AppSecUSA</a> 2015!</span></div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </span>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div><br>
                              On Aug 31, 2015, at 2:45 AM, johanna
                              curiel curiel <<a
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                              wrote:<br>
                              <br>
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                              <div>
                                <div dir="ltr">Hi All
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>The discussion about David Rook
                                    being questioned regarding his
                                    slides content really concerns me, I
                                    still don't see how his slides can
                                    be more commercial that the talk at
                                    this appsec in SFO called </div>
                                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://appsecusa2015.sched.org/event/fd18011c9c21852dc66f812ef96af4b8?iframe=yes&w=i:0;&sidebar=yes&bg=no#?iframe=yes&w=i:100;&sidebar=yes&bg=no"
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                                      target="_blank">Securing your
                                      application using Docker </a></div>
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                                  <div>"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://2015.appsecusa.org/agenda/speakers/?speaker=diogo_monica.1tssilmd"
                                      target="_blank">https://2015.appsecusa.org/agenda/speakers/?speaker=diogo_monica.1tssilmd</a>"</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Why: Because Docker also has a
                                    commercial side. Many could consider
                                    this talk a 'sells talk', especially
                                    when Docker also has a very
                                    commercial side:<br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>Pricing section of Docker:</div>
                                    <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="https://www.docker.com/pricing#?section=1"
                                        target="_blank">https://www.docker.com/pricing#?section=1</a></div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>In my opinion, David is not
                                    selling games in the slides
                                    regarding how he applied security at
                                    Riot Games, he is explaining how he
                                    implement it at his work, using
                                    awesome slides. IF a security
                                    specialist is going to hear his talk
                                    or check his slides, is he suddenly
                                    going to become a 'gamer' and buy
                                    League of legends? I doubt that. he
                                    is not even selling how to use the
                                    game and what is that about.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>If rules must be applied then
                                    they need to be evaluated properly
                                    for all. If a talk like Docker are
                                    accepted, where is the moral compass
                                    for judging David and his slides,
                                    especially if you look careful at
                                    the content.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>BTW, I think a talk about Docker
                                    and use it to secure applications is
                                    definitely very good one, but that
                                    does not take the commercial
                                    influence of Docker to buy or use
                                    his product for 'security purposes'
                                    and the inequality of judgement when
                                    looking at other OWASP presenters
                                    like David.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Cheers</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Johanna</div>
                                </div>
                                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug
                                    31, 2015 at 7:30 AM, Martin Knobloch
                                    <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:martin.knobloch@owasp.org"
                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:martin.knobloch@owasp.org">martin.knobloch@owasp.org</a></a>></span>
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                        <div>Hi Owen,</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Yes, I will be in Dublin
                                          for SOURCE, please see me
                                          there! I fly in late Sunday
                                          and will leave early on
                                          Tuesday, best to talk Monday
                                          after lunch. </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Cheers, </div>
                                        <div>-martin </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
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                                                  <div><b>From: </b>Owen

                                                    Pendlebury</div>
                                                  <div><b>Sent: </b>maandag
                                                    31 augustus 2015
                                                    13:10</div>
                                                  <div><b>To: </b>Jim
                                                    Manico</div>
                                                  <div><b>Cc: </b>Rahim
                                                    Jina; Mark Denihan;
                                                    Noreen Whysel; Fabio
                                                    Cerullo; Eoin Keary;
                                                    Martin Knobloch;
                                                    OWASP Foundation
                                                    Board List</div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div><b>Subject: </b>Re:

                                                        Owasp-ireland
                                                        Digest, Vol 101,
                                                        Issue 5</div>
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                                                  <div>Hi Jim,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  No I've not escalated
                                                  it as I was happy that
                                                  the board was going to
                                                  assess the situation
                                                  and revert with its
                                                  recommendations. <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>I've cc'd the board
                                                  and Martin as I feel
                                                  that this has gotten
                                                  way out of hand.
                                                  Martin happy to catch
                                                  up to discuss at any
                                                  stage. I believe
                                                  you're in Dublin for
                                                  Source and could meet
                                                  then. <br>
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                                                          <div>Owen
                                                          Pendlebury<br>
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                                                          OWASP
                                                          Ireland-Dublin
                                                          Chapter Lead<br>
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                                                <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                  31 August 2015 at
                                                  11:51, Jim Manico <span
                                                    dir="ltr"><<a
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                                                  wrote:<br>
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                                                      <div>I am very
                                                        sorry to hear
                                                        all this.
                                                        Because again
                                                        while I am
                                                        stating my
                                                        opinion I'm not
                                                        about strict
                                                        enforcement and
                                                        it seems to me
                                                        that David is
                                                        caught in the
                                                        middle of four
                                                        different sets
                                                        of folks.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>David, I'm
                                                        sorry for this
                                                        and do not blame
                                                        you for being
                                                        upset and
                                                        frustrated.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Have the
                                                        other issues
                                                        been resolved or
                                                        is there
                                                        conflict going
                                                        on? If you need
                                                        help resolving
                                                        this, you can
                                                        goto staff or
                                                        even go to our
                                                        Ombudsman,
                                                        Martin Knoblock.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>I of course
                                                        have a serious
                                                        conflict of
                                                        interest here
                                                        since Eoin and
                                                        Rahim are
                                                        business
                                                        partners and
                                                        friends of mine.
                                                        But there are
                                                        plenty of ways
                                                        to approach
                                                        conflict
                                                        resolution if
                                                        you need that
                                                        support, Owen.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Aloha,</div>
                                                      <span>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>--</div>
                                                          <div>Jim
                                                          Manico</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
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                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Global

                                                          Board Member</span></div>
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Aug 31,
                                                          2015, at 12:42
                                                          AM, Owen
                                                          Pendlebury
                                                          <<a
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                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <div>Hi All,<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I'm
                                                          removing the
                                                          Ireland list
                                                          as I do not
                                                          deem it
                                                          necessary to
                                                          involve others
                                                          in something
                                                          that has
                                                          dragged on and
                                                          to be honest
                                                          seems like an
                                                          open and
                                                          closed case
                                                          based on the
                                                          speaker
                                                          agreement. <br>
                                                           <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Just to
                                                          clarify
                                                          things. This
                                                          was driven off
                                                          a complaint
                                                          received from
                                                          Rahim and Eoin
                                                          in relation to
                                                          slides on the
                                                          WIKI and not
                                                          David Rook.
                                                          This complaint
                                                          was in
                                                          relation to
                                                          the contents
                                                          in the slides.
                                                          An email was
                                                          sent out to
                                                          all speakers
                                                          asking if they
                                                          would mind
                                                          providing a
                                                          non vendor
                                                          version for
                                                          the WIKI. This
                                                          complaint was
                                                          driven by me
                                                          questioning
                                                          Eoin, a former
                                                          global board
                                                          member on
                                                          slides  as
                                                          they were not
                                                          abiding by the
                                                          speaker
                                                          agreement (
                                                          Something he
                                                          had agreed
                                                          would be
                                                          vendor
                                                          neutral)</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Eoin proceeded
                                                          to have his
                                                          company and a
                                                          service they
                                                          provide on
                                                          every slide.
                                                          He also gave
                                                          business cards
                                                          to attendees
                                                          regarding his
                                                          company
                                                          providing
                                                          training for
                                                          them and
                                                          mentioned that
                                                          he would give
                                                          attendees jobs
                                                          if they were
                                                          able to answer
                                                          questions he
                                                          asked. This I
                                                          felt was not
                                                          vendor neutral
                                                          and questioned
                                                          him on it. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Once he was
                                                          questioned, we
                                                          then received
                                                          a complaint
                                                          from Eoin and
                                                          Rahim (Same
                                                          Company),
                                                          which facts
                                                          wise were
                                                          incorrect and
                                                          seemed
                                                          tailored to
                                                          something less
                                                          befitting of a
                                                          professional
                                                          services
                                                          company. <br>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Owen
                                                          Pendlebury<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          OWASP
                                                          Ireland-Dublin
                                                          Chapter Lead<br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          31 August 2015
                                                          at 11:29,
                                                          David Rook <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:drook@riotgames.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:drook@riotgames.com">drook@riotgames.com</a></a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">I
                                                          look forward
                                                          to seeing how
                                                          well this is
                                                          enforced at
                                                          AppSec USA in
                                                          a few weeks
                                                          time.</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Mon, Aug 31,
                                                          2015 at 11:28
                                                          AM, Jim Manico
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org"
                                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org">jim.manico@owasp.org</a></a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Clarified
                                                          in my last
                                                          email, I stand
                                                          correctly my
                                                          apologies for
                                                          that
                                                          mistake....<span><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>--</div>
                                                          <div>Jim
                                                          Manico</div>
                                                          <div>
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                                                          Board Member</span></div>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Aug 31,
                                                          2015, at 12:13
                                                          AM, David Rook
                                                          <<a
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                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Specifically

                                                          I said "I've
                                                          got nothing to
                                                          sell, only
                                                          ideas to
                                                          share" in our
                                                          last exchange
                                                          so I'd like to
                                                          figure out
                                                          where you got
                                                          that from
                                                          dude.</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Mon, Aug 31,
                                                          2015 at 11:11
                                                          AM, David Rook
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:drook@riotgames.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:drook@riotgames.com">drook@riotgames.com</a></a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Hey

                                                          Jim,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I have to
                                                          call you out
                                                          on "<span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">But

                                                          you gave a
                                                          talk that by
                                                          your own
                                                          admission was
                                                          trying to
                                                          benefit Riot
                                                          Games and sell
                                                          games</span>"
                                                          < I don't
                                                          believe I've
                                                          ever said
                                                          that. We
                                                          produce a free
                                                          to play game
                                                          dude, we don't
                                                          sell games :)</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Mon, Aug 31,
                                                          2015 at 11:09
                                                          AM, Jim Manico
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org"
                                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org">jim.manico@owasp.org</a></a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          <div>Rahim,
                                                          David and
                                                          others,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I hope
                                                          you are well.
                                                          The current
                                                          speaker
                                                          agreement
                                                          allows for a
                                                          bio slide up
                                                          front where
                                                          you can
                                                          mention your
                                                          commercial
                                                          connections,
                                                          logo as well. </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>The rest
                                                          of the
                                                          presentation
                                                          needs to be
                                                          non-commercial,
                                                          per the
                                                          current
                                                          speaker
                                                          agreement. I
                                                          like that
                                                          policy
                                                          personally
                                                          since it's in
                                                          tune with out
                                                          bylaws and
                                                          mission
                                                          statement
                                                          around vendor
                                                          neutrality.
                                                          99.99% that
                                                          speaker
                                                          agreement is
                                                          honored with
                                                          no fuss.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>And to be
                                                          honest,
                                                          especially at
                                                          the chapter
                                                          level, the
                                                          foundation
                                                          does not
                                                          strongly
                                                          enforce this.
                                                          There are
                                                          presentations
                                                          that do not
                                                          fit this
                                                          policy that
                                                          slip through.
                                                          And in fact
                                                          there are even
                                                          some chapters
                                                          that encourage
                                                          commercial
                                                          talks.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>But keep
                                                          in mind OWASP
                                                          is an
                                                          educational
                                                          charity, with
                                                          a mission to
                                                          be free of
                                                          commercial
                                                          affiliations.
                                                          I think that
                                                          honoring the
                                                          wishes of the
                                                          current
                                                          speaker
                                                          agreement is a
                                                          ethical
                                                          standard that
                                                          speakers
                                                          should
                                                          seriously
                                                          consider.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>And
                                                          really, if
                                                          there is a
                                                          chapter
                                                          arguing about
                                                          footers and
                                                          headers -
                                                          geesh we have
                                                          better things
                                                          to do. I am
                                                          sorry it has
                                                          all
                                                          degenerated
                                                          down to this
                                                          and I wish
                                                          there was a
                                                          better way. </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>To the
                                                          persons trying
                                                          to hold up a
                                                          better ethical
                                                          standard,
                                                          thank you! To
                                                          those who will
                                                          not spend the
                                                          10 seconds to
                                                          turn off
                                                          commercial
                                                          footers and
                                                          are making
                                                          commercial
                                                          footers an
                                                          issue that
                                                          requires board
                                                          level
                                                          attention, I
                                                          ask, what are</div>
                                                          <div>you
                                                          trying to
                                                          accomplish
                                                          when you give
                                                          a talk at our
                                                          vendor-neutral
                                                          primarily open
                                                          source
                                                          charity?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>And by
                                                          the way, I was
                                                          dragged into
                                                          this over
                                                          social media
                                                          and forced to
                                                          make a
                                                          decision.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>So be it.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>David
                                                          Rook I love
                                                          you and your
                                                          talk was VERY
                                                          well received.
                                                          I consider you
                                                          a friend. But
                                                          you gave a
                                                          talk that by
                                                          your own
                                                          admission was
                                                          trying to
                                                          benefit Riot
                                                          Games and sell
                                                          games. Per our
                                                          current
                                                          speaker
                                                          guidelines
                                                          this is not
                                                          acceptable. I
                                                          know how smart
                                                          you are, Rook,
                                                          and I'd
                                                          personally
                                                          prefer (but
                                                          not enforce)
                                                          that you give
                                                          talks more
                                                          suited to a
                                                          non profit
                                                          educational
                                                          charity. I
                                                          have seen
                                                          literally
                                                          hundreds of
                                                          speakers at
                                                          OWASP chapters
                                                          and
                                                          conferences
                                                          with tight
                                                          commercial
                                                          affiliations
                                                          still find a
                                                          way to give
                                                          vendor neutral
                                                          non commercial
                                                          tech talks at
                                                          OWASP events.
                                                          It CAN be done
                                                          if you have
                                                          the will to do
                                                          it. And I hope
                                                          you do! :)</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>With
                                                          respect,</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>--</div>
                                                          <div>Jim
                                                          Manico</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Global

                                                          Board Member</span></div>
                                                          <span
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">OWASP

                                                          Foundation</span>
                                                          <div><font
                                                          color="#000000"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.owasp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.owasp.org">https://www.owasp.org</a></a></font></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Join

                                                          me at <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://appsecusa.org/" target="_blank">AppSecUSA</a> 2015!</span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Aug 30,
                                                          2015, at 11:39
                                                          PM, Owen
                                                          Pendlebury
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:owen.pendlebury@owasp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owen.pendlebury@owasp.org">owen.pendlebury@owasp.org</a></a>>

                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Hi Rahim,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks
                                                          for your mail.
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          I believe that
                                                          this matter is
                                                          being
                                                          discussed at a
                                                          global board
                                                          level. As of
                                                          now the OWASP
                                                          speaker
                                                          agreement (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Speaker_Agreement"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Speaker_Agreement">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Speaker_Agreement</a></a>)
                                                          still applies.
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Thanks<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Owen<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Owen
                                                          Pendlebury<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          OWASP
                                                          Ireland-Dublin
                                                          Chapter Lead<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Ireland-Dublin" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Ireland-Dublin">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Ireland-Dublin</a></a><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          31 August 2015
                                                          at 10:29,
                                                          Rahim Jina <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rahim.jina@owasp.org"
                                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rahim.jina@owasp.org">rahim.jina@owasp.org</a></a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0
                                                          0 0
                                                          .8ex;border-left:1px
                                                          #ccc
                                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">Hi

                                                          Owen,</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">Is

                                                          there any
                                                          follow-up on
                                                          the below from
                                                          the owasp
                                                          leadership
                                                          team regarding
                                                          the use of
                                                          company logos
                                                          on slide
                                                          headers/footers?</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">Thanks,</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">Rahim</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote"><br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0px
                                                          0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div
                                                          link="blue"
                                                          vlink="purple"
                                                          lang="EN-US">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:eoinkeary@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eoinkeary@gmail.com">eoinkeary@gmail.com</a></a>
                                                          [mailto:<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:eoinkeary@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eoinkeary@gmail.com">eoinkeary@gmail.com</a></a>]
                                                          <b>On Behalf
                                                          Of </b>Eoin<br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b>
                                                          20 July 2015
                                                          14:48<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b>
                                                          Owen
                                                          Pendlebury
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:owen.pendlebury@owasp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owen.pendlebury@owasp.org">owen.pendlebury@owasp.org</a></a>><br>
                                                          <b>Cc:</b>
                                                          Fabio Cerullo
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org">fcerullo@owasp.org</a></a>>;

                                                          Mark Denihan
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Mark.Denihan@owasp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mark.Denihan@owasp.org">Mark.Denihan@owasp.org</a></a>><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b>
                                                          Re:
                                                          Owasp-ireland
                                                          Digest, Vol
                                                          101, Issue 5</span></p>
                                                          <span>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Hi

                                                          Owen,</p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">How

                                                          is life in
                                                          Deloitte, hope
                                                          all is well
                                                          and you are
                                                          settling in
                                                          ok.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Please

                                                          feel free to
                                                          put the PDF's
                                                          on the OWASP
                                                          website if you
                                                          wish. </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          don't believe
                                                          I referred to
                                                          any commercial
                                                          offerings in
                                                          the slides
                                                          apart from the
                                                          cover and bio
                                                          slides.
                                                          Correct me if
                                                          I am wrong and
                                                          i'll gladly
                                                          take them out.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">The

                                                          feedback
                                                          overall was
                                                          very very good
                                                          so I'm sure
                                                          90% of the
                                                          delegates got
                                                          lots from the
                                                          class. </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Direct

                                                          feedback to
                                                          myself and the
                                                          funds I raised
                                                          for OWASP and
                                                          the chapter
                                                          were also very
                                                          positive, I
                                                          hope you
                                                          agree.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">kind

                                                          regards,</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Eoin</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span><span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">On

                                                          20 July 2015
                                                          at 13:38, Owen
                                                          Pendlebury
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:owen.pendlebury@owasp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owen.pendlebury@owasp.org">owen.pendlebury@owasp.org</a></a>>

                                                          wrote <b>To:</b>
                                                          Eoin Keary
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:eoin.keary@owasp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eoin.keary@owasp.org">eoin.keary@owasp.org</a></a>>

                                                          : </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0px
                                                          0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div
                                                          link="blue"
                                                          vlink="purple"
                                                          lang="EN-US">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="border-style:none
                                                          none none
                                                          solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1pt;padding:0cm
                                                          0cm 0cm
                                                          6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt">Can you put your slides on the WIKI via OWASP
                                                          file upload. I
                                                          dont think its
                                                          appropriate
                                                          for you to be
                                                          plugging
                                                          edgescan as
                                                          its nothing to
                                                          do with the
                                                          training. </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12pt">It was supposed to be OWASP training event
                                                          for the
                                                          chapter to
                                                          raise funds
                                                          and you had
                                                          edgescan/ BCC
                                                          Risk advisory
                                                          plastered all
                                                          over your
                                                          slides. </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">In

                                                          case you need
                                                          to reference
                                                          it ( I've
                                                          highlighted
                                                          the relevant
                                                          parts); <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Speaker_Agreement" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Speaker_Agreement">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Speaker_Agreement</a></a></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>OWASP holds
                                                          highly a
                                                          neutral and
                                                          unbiased
                                                          approach to
                                                          security that
                                                          is free from
                                                          undue vendor
                                                          influence.
                                                          Here are a few
                                                          specific tips
                                                          to maximize
                                                          the value of
                                                          your talk with
                                                          the OWASP
                                                          audience </p>
                                                          <ul
                                                          type="disc">
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <b>Please be
                                                          sure that your
                                                          talk is
                                                          objective,
                                                          stresses open
                                                          source
                                                          approaches,
                                                          and avoids
                                                          references to
                                                          any commercial
                                                          offerings of
                                                          your company.
                                                          </b></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <b>Feel free
                                                          to introduce
                                                          yourself and
                                                          your current
                                                          company on the
                                                          bio slide, but
                                                          avoid
                                                          references to
                                                          your company
                                                          throughout the
                                                          presentation </b></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <b>Please
                                                          either use a
                                                          blank
                                                          presentation
                                                          template or
                                                          the OWASP
                                                          template <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/File:OWASP_Presentation_Template.zip"
                                                          title="File:OWASP

                                                          Presentation
                                                          Template.zip"
target="_blank"> </a><a moz-do-not-send="true">File:OWASP</a>
                                                          Presentation
                                                          Template.zip
                                                          or <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/File:PPT_2013_Toolbox.zip"
                                                          title="File:PPT
                                                          2013
                                                          Toolbox.zip"
                                                          target="_blank">
                                                          </a><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="File:PPT">File:PPT</a></a>
                                                          2013
                                                          Toolbox.zip.
                                                          Unfortunately,
                                                          company slide
                                                          templates
                                                          aren't
                                                          acceptable for
                                                          OWASP talks. </b></li>
                                                          <li
                                                          class="MsoNormal">
                                                          <b>That's it -
                                                          OWASP'ers love
                                                          good talks
                                                          with new ideas
                                                          and approaches
                                                          for security!
                                                          </b></li>
                                                          </ul>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Owen

                                                          Pendlebury</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">OWASP

                                                          Ireland-Dublin
                                                          Chapter Lead</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                          <br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">--

                                                          </p>
                                                          <span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Eoin

                                                          Keary<br>
                                                          OWASP Member<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://twitter.com/EoinKeary" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://twitter.com/EoinKeary">https://twitter.com/EoinKeary</a></a></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </blockquote>
                                                </div>
                                                <br>
                                              </div>
                                              <br>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Jim Manico
Global Board Member
OWASP Foundation
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.owasp.org">https://www.owasp.org</a>
Join me at AppSecUSA 2015!</pre>
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