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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Matt, <br>
      <br>
      thank you for the clarification. <br>
      I was a bit confused by the comment that some of our configuration
      would refer to owasp.net. <br>
      <br>
      In that case we should obviously remove all owasp.net aliases in
      Google admin. <br>
      <br>
      Whether we want to go after owasp.net, I leave to the community
      and board. <br>
      So far we have not misses it and I don't know the amount of legal
      fees we would have to pay to get this resolved. <br>
      <br>
      Best regards, Tobias<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Ps.: however, please note, that if anyone uses owasp.net in a way
      that it would infringe our trademark, in that case we must enforce
      our trademark. At the moment, I assume that is not the case as it
      points to an empty non-related page. <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 30/08/15 19:41, Matt Tesauro wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CALKUk+MR_80F-WgG3H5BDHV-67pjF=GZFA1X0XPW9kJWsOkubw@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Tobias, 
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        <div>As far as I know (and can tell) the Foundation never owned
          that domain so it wasn't able to be lost.  Kate or maybe Jeff
          Williams and/or Dave Wichers may have info that pre-dates my
          time with OWASP.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The board can decide whether owning it is worth the time
          and effort.  I don't have a strong opinion one way or the
          other.</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>Cheers!</div>
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
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          <div class="gmail_signature">--<br>
            -- Matt Tesauro<br>
            OWASP WTE Project Lead<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project"
              target="_blank">http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project</a><br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://AppSecLive.org"
              target="_blank">http://AppSecLive.org</a> - Community and
            Download site
            <div>OWASP OpenStack Security Project Lead
              <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_OpenStack_Security_Project"
                  target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_OpenStack_Security_Project</a></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:32 PM,
          Tobias <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:tobias.gondrom@owasp.org" target="_blank">tobias.gondrom@owasp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>Hi Matt and Paul, <br>
                <br>
                could you please clarify whether we lost that domain or
                what happened and make a proposal what you think we
                should do about it? <br>
                <br>
                Best regards, Tobias
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                    On 19/08/15 23:43, Noreen Whysel wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">I have noticed on the Google Admin
                      site that a lot of emails are set up to have the <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://owasp.net"
                        target="_blank">owasp.net</a> address as an
                      alias, FYI.</div>
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                            <div>Noreen Whysel</div>
                            <div>Community Manager</div>
                            <div>OWASP Foundation</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at
                        5:05 PM, Martin Knobloch <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:martin.knobloch@owasp.org"
                            target="_blank">martin.knobloch@owasp.org</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                              <div>Thanks for taking this up!<br>
                                <br>
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                              Cheers,<br>
                            </div>
                            -martin<br>
                          </div>
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                              <div><br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 19,
                                  2015 at 10:37 PM, Matt Tesauro <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:matt.tesauro@owasp.org"
                                      target="_blank">matt.tesauro@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Yeah, I replied to
                                      Martin's first email which
                                      regrettably had a bad address. 
                                      Here's what didn't make it to the
                                      Board list:
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                                      <div>[snip]</div>
                                      <div><span>Martin, 
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>From what I can tell, we
                                            never owned it or it expired
                                            before Mark Bristow
                                            consolidated all the domains
                                            the Foundation owned years
                                            ago.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                        </span>
                                        <div>I say that based on the
                                          fact that Mark setup a bunch
                                          of conference domains with
                                          GoDaddy back around 2009-ish
                                          when he was part of the
                                          conference committee.  Either
                                          at that time, or when the
                                          Foundation migrated off
                                          hardware at Aspect's
                                          headquarters, the Foundation
                                          owned domain names were
                                          consolidated at GoDaddy.</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>I just logged in to that
                                          account and no <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://owasp.net/"
                                            target="_blank">owasp.net</a> is

                                          present and all the domains
                                          are set to auto-renew so I
                                          doubt we let ownership slip.</div>
                                        <span>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Whois for the current
                                            owner is at:</div>
                                          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=owasp.net"
                                              target="_blank">http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=owasp.net</a><br>
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                                          <div><br>
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                                          <div>HTH</div>
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                                      <div>[snip]</div>
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                                          <div>--<br>
                                            -- Matt Tesauro<br>
                                            OWASP WTE Project Lead<br>
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project"
                                              target="_blank">http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project</a><br>
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://AppSecLive.org"
                                              target="_blank">http://AppSecLive.org</a>
                                            - Community and Download
                                            site
                                            <div>OWASP OpenStack
                                              Security Project Lead
                                              <div><a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_OpenStack_Security_Project"
                                                  target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_OpenStack_Security_Project</a></div>
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                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:35
                                            PM, Josh Sokol <span
                                              dir="ltr"><<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:josh.sokol@owasp.org"
                                                target="_blank">josh.sokol@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
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                                                <div>This sounds like
                                                  something for Matt to
                                                  look into so I'm
                                                  adding him.  Looks
                                                  like there was a
                                                  wordpress site there
                                                  that has gotten taken
                                                  over by a domain
                                                  spammer.  Not good if
                                                  we actually own <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://owasp.net" target="_blank">owasp.net</a>.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                </div>
                                                ~josh<br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                                                    <div>On Wed, Aug 19,
                                                      2015 at 3:17 PM,
                                                      Martin Knobloch <span
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moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:martin.knobloch@owasp.org"
                                                          target="_blank">martin.knobloch@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                      wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Hi all,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          I noticed
                                                          quite a few
                                                          are using @<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://owasp.net" target="_blank">owasp.net</a>
                                                          email
                                                          addresses.
                                                          Just had a
                                                          look on <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://owasp.net" target="_blank">http://owasp.net</a>, but that
                                                          has nothing to
                                                          do with OWASP.<br>
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                                                          How comes?<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          Cheers,<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -martin<br
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                              <div dir="ltr">Met vriendelijke groet,<br>
                                -martin<br>
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