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      I like the idea. <br>
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      Maybe you like to host a chapter meeting first, before going "full
      conference". <br>
      Following past experience: a team of local volunteers seems
      important for hosting a conference. <br>
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      And a second comments: Hawaii is indeed half way mix between US
      and Asia, so in theory you could get crowds from both places. <br>
      <br>
      When I recently did another conference for the IETF in Hawaii, we
      noticed one challenge, and that was that in addition to the
      airfare, a number of people had problems getting this approved as
      education or security conference, as the destination is see kind
      of too good to be true for some senior manager approvals. So we
      had less attendees than expected. :-( <br>
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      Aloha, <br>
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      Tobias<br>
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      On 11/08/15 04:31, Jim Manico wrote:<br>
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      Yup, I'm with you. There is a whole process for submitting
      conference proposals and getting them accepted which I commit to
      following.<br>
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      Aloha,<br>
      Jim<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/10/15 10:27 AM, Michael Coates
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        <div>Awesome, glad it's helpful!</div>
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        <div>One thing to also consider. I *think* we have a blackout
          period on regional conferences within 1 or 2 months of the
          national conf. The idea is to not compete with ourself.</div>
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        <div>This would be a good item to double check with Paul and
          Laura so you know when the national event is targeted for
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        <div>Aside from that, sounds awesome!<br>
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            <div>This is just the advice I was looking for. Thanks
              Michael.</div>
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            <div>I'm going to propose a regional for early 2016. My wife
              has agreed to help. We are calling hotels in the area,
              getting pricing info, and will then make a formal proposal
              with the numbers.<br>
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              Thanks again, Michael.</div>
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                  <div>Here's one potential way to start digging into
                    the opportunity. You of course know most of this
                    already from your board work, just providing some
                    perspective.</div>
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                  <div>1. Consider if you want to try for a national
                    conference or a regional conference. The tradeoffs
                    here are largely around size and risk. A regional
                    conference is typically smaller (which by no means
                    less awesome). Think of the Southern California
                    conference which is intimate at around 200 people
                    and absolutely amazing! As you've seen, these events
                    still draw amazing speakers.</div>
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                  <div>A national conference on the other hand is going
                    to have more structure around profit goals since
                    it's a major fundraiser for the organization. Most
                    likely this would necessitate a bigger event 1000+
                    attendees.</div>
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                  <div>2. Run the numbers on attendees - Based on
                    location you would have the best chance with West
                    Coast from North America, some midwesterners and
                    perhaps Australia and asia. You can work with Laura
                    to understand the attendee demographics for
                    conferences, but in general about 50% of attendees
                    are from the regional area.</div>
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                  <div>3. Run the numbers on cost for attendees - What
                    is the typical airfare for an attendee to get to
                    Hawaii? What is the lodging? It could be the same
                    costs as a mainland flight to NYC or SF, if so,
                    that's a really good point to make if it costs the
                    same.</div>
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                  <div>4. Other cons - have other security conferences
                    been held on Hawaii? How many people showed up?
                    Perhaps they are bigger or smaller organizations and
                    this can give you an idea of how it went for them.</div>
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                  <div>Hope this helps. My opinion (without knowing the
                    above information) is that you could go a regional
                    conference route and create an amazing experience
                    for a few hundred people.</div>
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                        Michael et al...<br>
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                        * Hawaii has a very small tech community
                        scattered across several islands<br>
                        * Regional Hawaii tech conference are tough
                        since our tech community is so small<br>
                        * The OWASP Chapter is defunct in Hawaii<br>
                        <br>
                        I still want to do something. Perhaps just focus
                        on a small conference on Kauai next year? Or
                        propose something bigger?<br>
                        <br>
                        I am extremely flexible here. I have been asked
                        about a Hawaii OWASP conference on many
                        occasions and I have time to put in serious
                        effort to make it happen.<br>
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                        I think it will be easy to get good speakers,
                        frankly. Shakacon has attracted a large number
                        of amazing speakers - it's one of the more
                        competitive conferences on the security circuit.
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        What is the best path for the first run? 1-day
                        no training? 2-day? 2-day + 1-day of training?
                        I'd be grateful for more suggestions....<br>
                        <br>
                        Another possibility is to tag onto the end of
                        Shakacon <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        We would do our own thing of course - but just
                        time a OWASP conference to happen right before
                        or after Shakacon to leverage the community that
                        will already be in town.<br>
                        <br>
                        Just thinking out loud. I'm eager for
                        suggestions.<br>
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                        Anyhow - I'll reactive the Hawaii chapter list
                        and move a more serious conversation there,
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                                that is all in your court and more power
                                to you.
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                                <div>Get great speakers and people will
                                  follow. Provide a professional site
                                  and handout and people will realize
                                  it's the real deal and hawaii is a
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                                        > On Aug 7, 2015, at 3:05 PM,
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                                        > Board,<br>
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                                        > I have been considering my
                                        plans for 2016/2017 and I would
                                        be happy to spend a few months
                                        at home helping set up a OWASP
                                        Hawaii conference if the desire
                                        was there for the community. I
                                        live on Kauai and there are
                                        several conference centers on
                                        this island. For easier travel,
                                        I can also help set up a
                                        conference in Honolulu near
                                        Waikiki - that main tourist
                                        center of the state of Hawaii.<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > This would be an expensive
                                        conference for many and the
                                        travel is tough on everyone
                                        since Hawaii is in the middle of
                                        no where.<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > But I have been asked to
                                        drive this several times and I
                                        would be happy to get the effort
                                        started if the community wanted.<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > I am really flexible on
                                        what this looks like. But I am
                                        willing to be boots on the
                                        ground and put the work in to
                                        make it happen.<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > What do you think?<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > Aloha,<br>
                                        ><br>
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