<div dir="ltr">Sounds good Jim, I agree that more volunteers and more staff time would help, and happy to spread the word. Thank you everyone. Best wishes, Bev</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Jim Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    Bev,<br>
    <br>
    I am hoping that two things will happen...<br>
    <br>
    1) Either more volunteers will jump in and help with "Wiki
    Curator/Editing" activities.<br>
    2) Volunteers will be more away of this team and send comments about
    out-of-date wiki issues to us.<br>
    <br>
    Please spread the word on these efforts - I'll do the same on
    Monday.<br>
    <br>
    Michael Coates : Thank you for bringing this up and I 100% agree a
    full time effort is very much prudent.<br>
    <br>
    Aloha,<br>
    Jim<div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 8/9/15 10:27 AM, Bev Corwin wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">+1 and offer suggestions for improvements, working
        with the wiki team, to optimize efforts, as well.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Bev<br>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Jim
              Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                <div dir="auto">
                  <div>Yep, I agree. Redirect over delete is standard
                    operating procedure to preserve search engine links
                    and similar. However, for "junk pages" with no
                    content and nothing to preserve (and there are
                    plenty of these) delete suggestions are best. Here
                    is the full list of categories we have been working
                    with.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <dl style="margin-top:0.2em;margin-bottom:0.5em">
                      <dd style="margin-left:1.6em;margin-bottom:0.1em;margin-right:0px">
                        <table>
                          <caption><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Following
                              mediawiki categories are uses to tag pages</span></caption><tbody>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><br>
                              </td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/delete‏‎]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">recommended
                                  for permanent deletion</span></td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/design]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">recommended
                                  for good content that needs to be
                                  redesigned to look better</span></td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/general]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><br>
                              </td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/historical]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">out
                                  of date but archived for historical
                                  context</span></td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/inactiveDraft]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">draft
                                  content that was never finished</span></td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/merge]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">duplicate
                                  content that needs to be merged with
                                  another doc</span></td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/old]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">old
                                  content that needs updating</span></td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/partialOld‏‎]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">old
                                  content that needs updating</span></td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/pls
                                    review]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">recently
                                  updated, requesting review</span></td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/reviewed‏‎]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><br>
                              </td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/reviewed/2014‏‎]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">recommended
                                  when good content has been reviewed
                                  that needs no changes</span></td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/reviewed/2015]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">recommended
                                  when good content has been reviewed
                                  that needs no changes</span></td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/reviewed/2016‏‎]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">recommended
                                  when good content has been reviewed
                                  that needs no changes</span></td>
                            </tr>
                            <tr>
                              <td><code style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody">[[Categorie:FIXME/silentMode]]</font></code></td>
                              <td><br>
                              </td>
                            </tr>
                          </tbody>
                        </table>
                      </dd>
                    </dl>
                    <br>
                    <div>I hope that if we do hire someone to work on
                      the wiki that they leverage and start from the
                      current efforts.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Aloha,</div>
                    <span>
                      <div>--</div>
                      <div>Jim Manico</div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div style="word-wrap:break-word">
                            <div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Global
                                Board Member</span></div>
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                              Foundation</span>
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                        </div>
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                    </span></div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <div><br>
                        On Aug 9, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Noreen Whysel <<a href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org" target="_blank">noreen.whysel@owasp.org</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        <br>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div>
                          <div>I agree with Matt on this. A redirect
                            will preserve the historical context of a
                            page which is important even if the content
                            is ultimately deemed outdated or no longer
                            needed. At some time a project was created
                            and it was important to that team. For
                            whatever reason it died. From an archiving
                            perspective, preserving it shows what
                            members of the Foundation were working on at
                            a given time. Also, there may be a time in
                            the future, when someone wants to revive it
                            or use some of the information and tools
                            developed on that project for a new one. It
                            would be a shame to lose that work.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Redirects are simple. Add <span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">#<span style="font-weight:bold">REDIRECT</span> [[:NewPage]]</span> to
                            the edit field and it will redirect to the
                            new page. All the old page history is saved
                            and viewed very easily by typing the URL, <a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Old_Page_Title&action=history" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Old_Page_Title&action=history" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Old_Page_Title&action=history</a>.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">The
                                only time I have ever considered
                                deleting a page was when I created one
                                and decided I needed it to have a
                                different page name. Unfortunately
                                changing a page name is not allowed.</span></div>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                            <span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Noreen
                              Whysel<br>
                            </span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);font-size:13pt">Community
                              Manager</span>
                            <div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">OWASP
                                Foundation</span></div>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                            On Aug 8, 2015, at 3:09 PM, Matt Tesauro
                            <<a href="mailto:matt.tesauro@owasp.org" target="_blank">matt.tesauro@owasp.org</a>>
                            wrote:<br>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote type="cite">
                            <div>
                              <div dir="ltr">FYI:  My understanding of
                                the general use of Wikis is that
                                deletion is the 'nuclear' option and
                                only be used very sparingly.  I tend to
                                use redirects rather then deletions so
                                that any inward links find useful
                                content.  I'd suggest that as a general
                                strategy over deleting a page since it
                                preserves the history of the older page,
                                is easier to do then deletions and can
                                be undone in future should needs change.
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>The last time I did a page deletion
                                  was several years ago where there was
                                  something accidentally posted to the
                                  wiki which raised privacy issues for
                                  the particular country where those
                                  members lived.  To be honest, you work
                                  against the wiki software when you do
                                  a deletion quite by design.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>For empty or never updated default
                                  project pages, I'd simply redirect
                                  those to the main project page on the
                                  wiki.  I think we will do ourselves a
                                  favor to keep inbound links working
                                  even if they redirect to other related
                                  content.  If someone is coming to the
                                  wiki, it is presumably to find some
                                  content so providing related content
                                  via a  redirect is preferable to a
                                  'this page has been deleted' or an
                                  empty 'edit me' page in my opinion.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>HTH.</div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                                <div>
                                  <div>--<br>
                                    -- Matt Tesauro<br>
                                    OWASP WTE Project Lead<br>
                                    <a href="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project" target="_blank">http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Live_CD_Project</a><br>
                                    <a href="http://AppSecLive.org" target="_blank">http://AppSecLive.org</a>
                                    - Community and Download site
                                    <div>OWASP OpenStack Security
                                      Project Lead
                                      <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_OpenStack_Security_Project" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_OpenStack_Security_Project</a></div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                                <br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 6,
                                  2015 at 8:56 AM, johanna curiel curiel
                                  <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johanna.curiel@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:johanna.curiel@owasp.org" target="_blank">johanna.curiel@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                    <div dir="ltr">One of those FIXME is
                                      about WebScarab which I do not
                                      agree
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>WebScarab is still in use and
                                        should not be deleted. I would
                                        like to classify that content as
                                        'Low Activity' or Inactive,
                                        especially for valuable content
                                        projects but not actively
                                        maintained.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>@Noreen: I can create
                                        categories but I cannot delete
                                        wiki pages that have been
                                        created. You must be an admin:<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_delete_a_page" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_delete_a_page" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_delete_a_page</a></div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Regards</div>
                                      <span><font color="#888888">
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Johanna</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                        </font></span></div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:47 AM,
                                            Noreen Whysel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org" target="_blank">noreen.whysel@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
                                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                              <div dir="ltr">Johanna,
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Have you tried
                                                  creating a new
                                                  category? Type <a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:new-category-name" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:new-category-name" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:new-category-name</a>
                                                  and see if it lets you
                                                  edit the new category
                                                  page. BTW, the wiki
                                                  seems to be extremely
                                                  slow today.</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Are you able to
                                                  view the Special Pages
                                                  for Categories? If not
                                                  you may not have a
                                                  high enough user
                                                  setting. It doesn't
                                                  seem that all the
                                                  categories are
                                                  protected pages, but I
                                                  am not sure.</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Special:Categories" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Special:Categories" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Special:Categories</a><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>There are also
                                                  category tracking
                                                  functions built into
                                                  Mediawiki. None of the
                                                  pages appear to be
                                                  populated, which could
                                                  just mean there are no
                                                  pages using these tags
                                                  or having the tracked
                                                  problems.</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Special:TrackingCategories" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Special:TrackingCategories" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Special:TrackingCategories</a><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Timo, There is a
                                                  FIXME category tag for
                                                  FIXME/delete and
                                                  another for candidate
                                                  for deletion that I
                                                  believe people had
                                                  been using to
                                                  recommend pages to
                                                  delete. You can see
                                                  all the FIXME
                                                  categories on the
                                                  Category:FIXME page. I
                                                  think Matt Tesauro is
                                                  the only person who
                                                  has deletion rights,
                                                  but he may know if
                                                  there are others.</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:FIXME" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:FIXME" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:FIXME</a><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:FIXME/delete" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:FIXME/delete" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:FIXME/delete</a><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:CandidateForDeletion" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:CandidateForDeletion" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:CandidateForDeletion</a><br>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><span><br clear="all">
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                                        <div>Noreen
                                                          Whysel</div>
                                                        <div>Community
                                                          Manager</div>
                                                        <div>OWASP
                                                          Foundation</div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <br>
                                                </span>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                      Thu, Aug 6, 2015
                                                      at 9:22 AM, Timo
                                                      Goosen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:timo.goosen@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:timo.goosen@owasp.org" target="_blank">timo.goosen@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                      wrote:<br>
                                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                        <div dir="ltr">If
                                                          I had ability
                                                          to delete
                                                          useless pages
                                                          off the wiki,
                                                          then a
                                                          significant
                                                          cleanup would
                                                          be done from
                                                          my side.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I would
                                                          also like to
                                                          hear answers
                                                          to Johanna's
                                                          questions.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Regards.</div>
                                                          <span><font color="#888888">
                                                          <div>Timo</div>
                                                          </font></span></div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Thu, Aug 6,
                                                          2015 at 2:55
                                                          PM, johanna
                                                          curiel curiel
                                                          <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johanna.curiel@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:johanna.curiel@owasp.org" target="_blank">johanna.curiel@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Hi
                                                          Board
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Regarding
                                                          your action to
                                                          hire a
                                                          contractor and
                                                          a technical
                                                          editor to
                                                          clean up the
                                                          wiki</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>As you
                                                          know many of
                                                          the pages are
                                                          indeed project
                                                          pages</div>
                                                          <div>I have
                                                          asked multiple
                                                          times access
                                                          to clean up
                                                          the category
                                                          section which
                                                          I do not have
                                                          access to.But
                                                          no anwer has
                                                          been provided
                                                          clearly on how
                                                          to do this.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Will this
                                                          potential
                                                          contractor(s)
                                                          handle content
                                                          related to
                                                          wiki pages
                                                          projects?</div>
                                                          <div>Have you
                                                          though about
                                                          who will
                                                          manage these
                                                          actions ,
                                                          since in my
                                                          opinion,  an
                                                          external party
                                                          will not know
                                                          which content
                                                          to clean and
                                                          which not?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I would
                                                          like to hear
                                                          your thoughts
                                                          about this and
                                                          if you have
                                                          consider the
                                                          Project task
                                                          force team to
                                                          get involved
                                                          in this action</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>My
                                                          biggest
                                                          concern is
                                                          that you hire
                                                          someone that
                                                          has no idea
                                                          about the
                                                          content, So
                                                          how will this
                                                          person be able
                                                          to clean up
                                                          something
                                                          properly or
                                                          not? And to
                                                          create
                                                          relevant
                                                          content?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Regards</div>
                                                          <span><font color="#888888">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Johanna</div>
                                                          </font></span></div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Wed, Aug 5,
                                                          2015 at 2:39
                                                          PM, Jim Manico
                                                          <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="auto">
                                                          <div>+1<span><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>--</div>
                                                          <div>Jim
                                                          Manico</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Global
                                                          Board Member</span></div>
                                                          <span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">OWASP
                                                          Foundation</span>
                                                          <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/" style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" target="_blank"><font color="#000000"></font></a><font color="#000000"><a href="https://www.owasp.org" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></font></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Join
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Aug 5,
                                                          2015, at 7:09
                                                          AM, Matt Konda
                                                          <<a href="mailto:matt.konda@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:matt.konda@owasp.org" target="_blank">matt.konda@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Should we
                                                          aim bigger and
                                                          make this part
                                                          of a contract
                                                          tech writer's
responsibilities?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Matt Konda
                                                          <div>@mkonda</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Aug 5,
                                                          2015, at 4:32
                                                          AM, Fabio
                                                          Cerullo <<a href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>I support
                                                          the idea on
                                                          getting some
                                                          professional
                                                          help for the
                                                          wiki. Maybe we
                                                          could allocate
                                                          a small budget
                                                          to start with?
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Is it
                                                          possible to
                                                          come up with a
                                                          list of pages
                                                          that need
                                                          maintenance
                                                          based on the
                                                          Wiki
                                                          categorisation
                                                          below?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Regards,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div>Fabio
                                                          Cerullo</div>
                                                          <div>Global
                                                          Board Member</div>
                                                          OWASP
                                                          Foundation
                                                          <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.owasp.org" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
                                                          <div>Join me
                                                          at <a href="https://2015.appsecusa.org" target="_blank">AppSecUSA 2015</a> in
                                                          San Francisco!</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>On 4 Aug
                                                          2015, at
                                                          19:34, Jim
                                                          Manico <<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">
                                                          <div>> <span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But, we need a bit more
                                                          focus. Let's
                                                          pay a few
                                                          bucks and just
                                                          get some
                                                          dedicated time
                                                          on it for
                                                          awhile.</span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>+1 I
                                                          think this is
                                                          an important
                                                          idea.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>--</div>
                                                          <div>Jim
                                                          Manico</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Global
                                                          Board Member</span></div>
                                                          <span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">OWASP
                                                          Foundation</span>
                                                          <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/" style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" target="_blank"><font></font></a><font><a href="https://www.owasp.org" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></font></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Aug 4,
                                                          2015, at 7:52
                                                          AM, Michael
                                                          Coates <<a href="mailto:michael.coates@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:michael.coates@owasp.org" target="_blank">michael.coates@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">All
                                                          great thing
                                                          and I'd want
                                                          to use the
                                                          systems we
                                                          have in place
                                                          for sure. My
                                                          comment/idea
                                                          is that we've
                                                          tried to do
                                                          this from a
                                                          volunteer
                                                          angle for many
                                                          years. Loe
                                                          their effort
                                                          and what
                                                          they've done.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>But, we
                                                          need a bit
                                                          more focus.
                                                          Let's pay a
                                                          few bucks and
                                                          just get some
                                                          dedicated time
                                                          on it for
                                                          awhile.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          Michael Coates
                                                          | <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=_mwc" target="_blank">@_mwc</a><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>OWASP
                                                          Global Board<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Join me
                                                          at <a href="http://appsecusa.org/" target="_blank">AppSecUSA</a> 2015 in San
                                                          Francisco!</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Tue, Aug 4,
                                                          2015 at 10:46
                                                          AM, Noreen
                                                          Whysel OWASP <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org" target="_blank">noreen.whysel@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="auto">
                                                          <div>Michael,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>There is
                                                          a category
                                                          called FIXME
                                                          that the wiki
                                                          editing
                                                          project uses
                                                          to tag content
                                                          that have
                                                          errors. I do
                                                          not know how
                                                          active that
                                                          team is at the
                                                          moment but we
                                                          can use these
                                                          tags to label
                                                          pages with
                                                          errors. It
                                                          would be good
                                                          to start with
                                                          labeling tools
                                                          we already
                                                          have in place.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I would
                                                          actually be
                                                          happy to run
                                                          an editathon
                                                          at AppSecUSA
                                                          as part of my
                                                          chapter leader
                                                          workshop. I
                                                          was hoping to
                                                          find members
                                                          of the wiki
                                                          editing team
                                                          to help out.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:FIXME" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:FIXME" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:FIXME</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Noreen Whysel
                                                          <div>Community
                                                          Manager</div>
                                                          <div>OWASP
                                                          Foundation</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Aug 4,
                                                          2015, at 1:26
                                                          PM, Michael
                                                          Coates <<a href="mailto:michael.coates@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:michael.coates@owasp.org" target="_blank">michael.coates@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Board,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Added as
                                                          a board
                                                          meeting topic
                                                          (if
                                                          necessary).
                                                          Circulating
                                                          for comment
                                                          via email.<br>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Try as we
                                                          might, we just
                                                          haven't had
                                                          enough
                                                          volunteer
                                                          focus on wiki
                                                          upkeep.
                                                          Wouldn't it be
                                                          great to part
                                                          with a few
                                                          hundred
                                                          dollars a
                                                          month and have
                                                          a wiki that is
                                                          organized with
                                                          tagging that
                                                          indicates "hot
                                                          content" or
                                                          content that
                                                          needs
                                                          updating? That
                                                          plus normal
                                                          clean up of
                                                          dead links,
                                                          duplicate page
                                                          flagging etc.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>This is a
                                                          minuscule
                                                          amount of
                                                          funds towards
                                                          the overall
                                                          budget and
                                                          would sure
                                                          help with the
                                                          delivery of
                                                          information to
                                                          the world.
                                                          Would also
                                                          help with
                                                          volunteer
                                                          engagement
                                                          since they'd
                                                          know what
                                                          content needs
                                                          attention.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          Michael Coates
                                                          | <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=_mwc" target="_blank">@_mwc</a><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>OWASP
                                                          Global Board<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Join me
                                                          at <a href="http://appsecusa.org/" target="_blank">AppSecUSA</a> 2015 in San
                                                          Francisco!</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br>
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                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br>
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    <pre cols="72">-- 
Jim Manico
Global Board Member
OWASP Foundation
<a href="https://www.owasp.org" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a>
Join me at AppSecUSA 2015!</pre>
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