<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hello Christian,</div><div>The majority of the material you refer to here</div><div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Education/Free_Training">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Education/Free_Training</a></div><div>Was co authored by myself. It has no corporate branding.</div><div>It was donated by myself and jim after we trained 200 people at outside RSA (at a</div><div>Pool hall). </div><div><br></div><div>We also got crap from people who also do pro training as opening editable content was deemed damaging to their commercial interests.</div><div><br></div><div>Your remarks are unfounded and laughable.</div><div>Nice try mate.</div><div><br></div><div>The RSA 2013 pullout by OWASP was also my doing as I pissed them off by forcing a heated debate etc and they set out a bunch of conditions including not supporting BSides. We told RSA we would not comply to such requests.</div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;"><br></span></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On 3 Jun 2015, at 09:48, Christian Heinrich <<a href="mailto:christian.heinrich@cmlh.id.au">christian.heinrich@cmlh.id.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Jim,</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Jim Manico <<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>You are right this looks fishy. I used the RSA template per their request.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Since this talk (which was in 2013) I have open sourced the material,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>rebranded it using the OWASP template and attached the raw PowerPoint > to the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>proactive control project under the "Quick Access" section for all to use.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>I've had several poor dealings with Whitehat Security due to their</span><br><span>lack of claimed ethics or morals.</span><br><span></span><br><span>However, I don't consider having to use their presentation template an</span><br><span>issue or unreasonable condition since "company slide templates aren't</span><br><span>acceptable for OWASP ..." either to quote</span><br><span><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Speaker_Agreement">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Speaker_Agreement</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Jim Manico <<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>As a board member I need to keep away from even the appearances of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>conflict</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of interest and will endeavor to do better in the future. I hope this</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>addresses your (fair) concern.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>The conflict of interest is that in addition to being an OWASP Board</span><br><span>Member you are also an OWASP Project Leader when these OWASP Projects</span><br><span>should be handed over until you have completed your service to the</span><br><span>OWASP Board.</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Education/Free_Training">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Education/Free_Training</a> is nothing</span><br><span>more than subversive marketing of OWASP Board Member's products and/or</span><br><span>services so that they are "made visible" to potential customers as</span><br><span>students.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Can you please address the ongoing relationship to the commercial</span><br><span>BlackHat conference and HP's upcoming presentation at RSA Conference</span><br><span>USA 2015 too?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Regards,</span><br><span>Christian Heinrich</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://cmlh.id.au/contact">http://cmlh.id.au/contact</a></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Governance mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Governance@lists.owasp.org">Governance@lists.owasp.org</a></span><br><span><a href="https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/governance">https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/governance</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>