<div dir="ltr">Josh, All:<div><br></div><div>Since Michael & Andrew have both affirmatively voted yes, we have unanimous consent to an e-vote, as well as unanimous consent to approve the bylaw language change.</div><div><br></div><div>Motion passes and I will record it on the Wiki page.   We also should note the e-vote results in our Board minutes on May 22.</div><div><br></div><div>Paul</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Best Regards, Paul Ritchie</div><div>OWASP Executive Director</div><div><a href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org" target="_blank">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Andrew van der Stock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vanderaj@owasp.org" target="_blank">vanderaj@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">As a vote is under way I will vote yes, but will look for further amendments once passed.</p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p dir="ltr">Andrew</p>
</font></span><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On 5 May 2015 12:26, "Josh Sokol" <<a href="mailto:josh.sokol@owasp.org" target="_blank">josh.sokol@owasp.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></span><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Updating status of the vote:<br><br>Josh - Yes<br>Jim - Yes<br>Matt - Yes<br>Fabio - Yes<br>Michael - Yes<br>Tobias - Yes<br>Andrew - <br><br></div>Andrew, could you please provide your vote when you get a chance?  The vote passes, but I would like to be able to say that all votes were counted.  Thanks!<br><br></div>~josh<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Michael Coates <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael.coates@owasp.org" target="_blank">michael.coates@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'm fine with this wording.<div><br></div><div>Yes.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br>--<br>Michael Coates | <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=_mwc" target="_blank">@_mwc</a><br></div><div>OWASP Global Board<br></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Join me at <a href="http://AppSecUSA.org" target="_blank">AppSecUSA</a> 2015 in San Francisco!</div><div><br></div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Paul Ritchie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org" target="_blank">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Tobias, All:<div><br></div><div>Yes, that scenario is possible under an exact application of the rule,  But I expect that under the first 'vote of confidence', the Board could vote to 'accept' the explanation of the missed meetings, and included in the motion to 'accept the explanation'.....add a phrase that says, 'Board will conduct a second vote of confidence 'when or if' another meeting is missed'.</div><div><br></div><div>At least, that is one way to implement this policy.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div></font></span><div class="gmail_extra"><span><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Best Regards, Paul Ritchie</div><div>OWASP Executive Director</div><div><a href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org" target="_blank">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Tobias <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tobias.gondrom@owasp.org" target="_blank">tobias.gondrom@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <div>I agree and vote "yes", too. <br>
      <br>
      But I have one question:  maybe I am overthinking this, just got a
      weird thought: <br>
      imagine the following scenario: Let's say a board member does not
      attend 4 out of the first 8 meetings. So obviously this means
      he/she will not fulfill her requirement and this will trigger a
      mandatory vote of confidence when he/she misses the 4th time at
      the 8th meeting. The current text seems to further mean that it
      will also trigger further votes of confidence for every one of the
      following four board meetings even if the board member attends all
      of them??? But maybe I am misreading or overthinking?<span><font color="#888888"><br>
      <br>
      Tobias</font></span><div><div><br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 04/05/15 23:09, Josh Sokol wrote:<br>
    </div></div></div><div><div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div>
          <div>
            <div>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <div>OK, no discussion so I'd like to call for a
                        vote.  Looks like Jim, Matt, and Fabio have
                        already gotten us started:<br>
                        <br>
                      </div>
                      Josh - Yes<br>
                    </div>
                    Jim - Yes<br>
                  </div>
                  Matt - Yes<br>
                </div>
                Fabio - Yes<br>
              </div>
              Michael - <br>
            </div>
            Tobias - <br>
          </div>
          Andrew - <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        ~josh<br>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Fabio
          Cerullo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="auto">
              <div>Yes<br>
                <br>
                Sent from my iPhone</div>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <div><br>
                    On 4 May 2015, at 10:43, Matt Konda <<a href="mailto:matt.konda@owasp.org" target="_blank">matt.konda@owasp.org</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div>
                      <div dir="ltr">I'm supportive of this.  (Yes to
                        accept the language in Josh's original email)
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Matt</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 1, 2015 at
                          11:53 AM, Josh Sokol <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:josh.sokol@owasp.org" target="_blank">josh.sokol@owasp.org</a>></span>
                          wrote:<br>
                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                            <div dir="ltr">
                              <div>With a formal motion, and a second,
                                the next step is a call for discussion. 
                                I know that there was some discussion
                                around the percent, but I feel
                                comfortable with the higher number
                                (75%), especially given that it includes
                                the human component of a Board vote.  In
                                effect, we have a process to determine
                                whether they were upholding
                                expectations, and another process to
                                determine if there was a reasonable
                                explanation as to why they were not.  I
                                realize that it is already the weekend
                                for some of you so let's give this until
                                Monday 12 PM CST for any discussion
                                around this.  Assuming that there is
                                none, or that we are all in agreement,
                                we will push for a Yes/No/Abstain vote
                                on Monday.  Sound good?<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                                    <br>
                                  </font></span></div>
                              <span><font color="#888888">~josh<br>
                                </font></span></div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May
                                    1, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Jim Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                    wrote:<br>
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                      <div dir="auto">
                                        <div>So I second this motion and
                                          obviously vote yes as well.</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Aloha,<span><br>
                                            <div>--</div>
                                            <div>Jim Manico</div>
                                            <div>@Manicode</div>
                                            <div><a href="tel:%28808%29%20652-3805" value="+18086523805" target="_blank">(808)
                                                652-3805</a></div>
                                          </span></div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div><br>
                                              On May 1, 2015, at 5:59
                                              AM, Paul Ritchie <<a href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org" target="_blank">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a>>
                                              wrote:<br>
                                              <br>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <div>
                                                <div dir="ltr">Josh -
                                                  All:
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>While I am not a
                                                    voting member of the
                                                    Board, I do support
                                                    this improved
                                                    language for a Bylaw
                                                    Change.</div>
                                                  <div>Note:  The Vote
                                                    of Confidence gives
                                                    the Board the
                                                    flexibility to 'take
                                                    no action' if it is
                                                    determined there
                                                    were valid reasons
                                                    for an individual to
                                                    miss a meeting.</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Also, best
                                                    practice for email
                                                    voting requires that
                                                    all 7 Board members
                                                    response proactively
                                                    (yes, no, abstain)
                                                    to ensure there is
                                                    unanimous consent to
                                                    hold the email
                                                    vote.  And of
                                                    course, at the next
                                                    normal board meeting
                                                    we will note in the
                                                    minutes the official
                                                    result of the email
                                                    voting 'between'
                                                    meetings.</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Paul</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Best
                                                          Regards, Paul
                                                          Ritchie</div>
                                                          <div>OWASP
                                                          Executive
                                                          Director</div>
                                                          <div><a href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org" target="_blank">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                    Fri, May 1, 2015 at
                                                    8:22 AM, Josh Sokol
                                                    <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:josh.sokol@owasp.org" target="_blank">josh.sokol@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
                                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>Since we
                                                          didn't have
                                                          time to cover
                                                          this during
                                                          the meeting, I
                                                          would like to
                                                          call for a
                                                          formal vote
                                                          offline for
                                                          Bil's proposed
                                                          Bylaw change. 
                                                          I formally
                                                          motion that we
                                                          approve Bil's
                                                          proposal as
                                                          written:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">PROPOSED</span></b></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>SECTION
                                                          3.03 Regular
                                                          Meetings.</b>
                                                          The Board of
                                                          Directors
                                                          shall have
                                                          regular
                                                          meetings as
                                                          needed.  A
                                                          link to the
                                                          board meeting
                                                          agenda’s and
                                                          the historical
                                                          minutes is
                                                          here: <a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Board_Meetings" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Board_Meetings</a><span style="color:black">.</span>  Meetings shall be at such dates, times,
                                                          and places as
                                                          the Board
                                                          shall
                                                          determine in
                                                          December of
                                                          the preceding
                                                          year and as
                                                          amended by the
                                                          Board. In no
                                                          event will
                                                          there be less
                                                          than one
                                                          meeting per
                                                          quarter. 
                                                          These meetings
                                                          will be open
                                                          to public
                                                          attendance,
                                                          however,
                                                          certain
                                                          portions of
                                                          the meeting
                                                          may be closed
                                                          to board
                                                          members  and
                                                          their
                                                          delegates when
                                                          required for
                                                          legal reasons,
                                                          or to shield
                                                          liability, or
                                                          to handle
                                                          personnel
                                                          issues, or
                                                          similar. 
                                                          Attendance in
                                                          person or
                                                          virtually by
                                                          board members
                                                          is required at
                                                          no less than
                                                          75% of the
                                                          total meetings
                                                          each year and
                                                          shall be
                                                          highly
                                                          encouraged to
                                                          meet in person
                                                          at least once
                                                          annually at a
                                                          date to be
                                                          announced and
                                                          agreed upon. 
                                                          Attendance is
                                                          tabulated
                                                          after every
                                                          scheduled
                                                          meeting for
                                                          the purpose of
                                                          determining if
                                                          the 75%
                                                          attendance
                                                          requirement
                                                          has been met,
                                                          and the
                                                          tabulation is
                                                          based upon the
                                                          entire
                                                          calendar
                                                          year. 
                                                          Cancelled
                                                          meetings are
                                                          considered
                                                          attended for
                                                          the purposes
                                                          of the
                                                          tabulation. 
                                                          Failure by a
                                                          board member
                                                          to meet the
                                                          75% attendance
                                                          requirement
                                                          after any
                                                          tabulation
                                                          will cause a
                                                          mandatory vote
                                                          of confidence
                                                          by the
                                                          remaining
                                                          board members,
                                                          whose votes
                                                          will be
                                                          publicly
                                                          recorded.  An
                                                          overall vote
                                                          of "no
                                                          confidence" is
                                                          recorded if
                                                          half or more
                                                          of the board
                                                          members vote
                                                          for it, which
                                                          causes the
                                                          board member
                                                          in question to
                                                          be instantly
                                                          removed from
                                                          their seat on
                                                          the board. 
                                                          Vacancies on
                                                          the board are
                                                          handled as per
                                                          Section 3.10.<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"></span></p>
                                                          <span>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><s>2
                                                          OWASP Board of
                                                          Directors will
                                                          hold quarterly
                                                          board meetings
                                                          lasting 4­6
                                                          hours each.
                                                          The schedule
                                                          of meetings
                                                          will be set by
                                                          the board in
                                                          December
                                                          before the
                                                          year. It is
                                                          likely the the
                                                          board meetings
                                                          will take
                                                          place on
                                                          Saturdays or
                                                          on a dedicated
                                                          day before a
                                                          large OWASP
                                                          conference.
                                                          This change is
                                                          a result of
                                                          the success of
                                                          the longer
                                                          format board
                                                          meeting and
                                                          also a result
                                                          of the
                                                          Executive
                                                          Director role
                                                          that has
                                                          enabled full
                                                          time
                                                          involvement
                                                          and focus on
                                                          OWASP
                                                          operations.
                                                          Board members
                                                          must attend
                                                          (in person or
                                                          virtually) 3
                                                          of the 4
                                                          meetings to
                                                          fulfill the
                                                          attendance
                                                          requirements.
                                                          This will take
                                                          effect in
                                                          January, 2014.
                                                          Changes passed
                                                          August 19,
                                                          2013.</s></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><s>3
                                                          “and shall be
                                                          highly
                                                          encouraged to
                                                          meet in person
                                                          at least once
                                                          annually at a
                                                          date to be
                                                          announced and
                                                          agreed upon”
                                                          amendment to
                                                          document
                                                          passed June
                                                          10, 2013.</s></p>
                                                          </span><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Do I have a
                                                          second?<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </font></span></div>
                                                        <span><font color="#888888">~josh<br>
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