<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Matt</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your words and support.</div><div><br></div><div>Based on the Project Budget allocation for 2015 we have available 50K for project related activities. Please see below:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Community_Engagement_-_Payments">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Community_Engagement_-_Payments</a></div><div><br></div><div>I will appreciate the questions/comments from other fellow Board members as I would like to formally bring this to an evote by the end of this week. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Fabio<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 21 Apr 2015, at 07:34, Matt Konda <<a href="mailto:matt.konda@owasp.org">matt.konda@owasp.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I like this idea and plan to support it at the 10 x $1,500 (15K) level - provided that doesn't require cutting funding to current core commitments.  I would like to hear from Paul and Fabio about what the financial implications are.<div><div><br></div><div>One thing that would make me happy would be if we could consider trying to find pure developer mentors to be involved as well, on a voluntary basis. It shouldn't be mandatory, but it might be an interesting way to bring experienced developers into OWASP projects.  If we're doing the work to identify interesting projects and evaluate proposals, that would seem to position them as validated ideas to pull developers into.</div><div><br></div><div>I applaud all of the people who have put in time and effort to work through what was initially a setback to turn it into an exciting new possibility.  Great work!</div><div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Fabio Cerullo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Hi</div><div><br></div><div>I fully endorse this initiative and think is aligned with our mission and strategic goals.</div><div><br></div><div>I appreciate the comments regarding the budgeting and we could lower them to a level which everyone feels comfortable with.. What about 10 slots at USD 1500 each.. Total budget USD 15000</div><div><br></div><div>Paul, I think the proposal by Kostas supports that approach. Any project leader could decide to get an additional slot/s by using their project funds. The only clarification is that Summer of Code is about 'code' so the documentation projects are out of scope.</div><div><br></div><div>Is everyone satisfied with the overall contents of the proposal? Can we bring this to a vote by the Board and move forward?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks Kostas for putting this together.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Fabio</div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On 20 Apr 2015, at 14:39, Paul Ritchie <<a href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org" target="_blank">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Josh, all:<div><br></div><div>So you are suggesting that a couple of the well funded Projects like AppSensor, OpenSAMM, ZAP, etc., could make a decision to 'sponsor' a student under the Summer of Code program to the tune or $1500 or $3000 or whatever they wanted to contribute.  And, they could ensure that those funds were used on student work benefiting their project.</div><div><br></div><div>I like that approach.  Funded projects support their own work effort, and then the Foundation could support other high-value student proposals that focus on new projects or under-funded projects.</div><div>Paul</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Best Regards, Paul Ritchie</div><div>OWASP Interim Executive Director</div><div><a href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org" target="_blank">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Josh Sokol <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:josh.sokol@owasp.org" target="_blank">josh.sokol@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I think we should treat it like we do the chapters.  If a project has money in their account, then they are not eligible for Foundation funds until that money has been allocated.  I'd also agree that $30k of unbudgeted funds is a lot to spend like this considering I don't see any reason to hurry here.  It literally means robbing another budgeted project in order to account for this.  That said, I support the idea, in concept.  Maybe the projects with some money can front it for their slots, the Foundation can use this as an experiment for our own program, and we can see how it goes.  Minimal risk with a high reward and we can budget for more next year?<span><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888">~josh<br></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Tobias <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tobias.gondrom@owasp.org" target="_blank">tobias.gondrom@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>Well, I don't know. <br>
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      IMHO the criteria should be based on quality of proposal and bang
      for the buck for OWASP. <br>
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      incubator/lab/flagship seems not so useful. E.g. if we get three
      good in one category, I would not see a point selecting one from
      another one just to serve all categories. <br>
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      Cheers, Tobias<div><div><br>
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      On 20/04/15 19:49, johanna curiel curiel wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">>Not
          sure we need to split this in incubator/lab/flagship
          categories. </span><br>
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        <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Tobias, this
            could be a option If we would like to provide a fair chance
            to all project categories. Woudl you suggest other criteria
            for selection?</span></div>
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        <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">cheers</span></div>
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        <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Johanna</span></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Tobias
          <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tobias.gondrom@owasp.org" target="_blank">tobias.gondrom@owasp.org</a>></span>
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              <div>3 x 2500USD sounds reasonable. <br>
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                Not sure we need to split this in incubator/lab/flagship
                categories. <br>
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                Best, Tobias
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                    On 20/04/15 19:39, johanna curiel curiel wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Consider maybe a small pilot with 3
                      types of projects:
                      <div>1 Incubator, 1 LAB, 1 Flagship</div>
                      <div><br>
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                      <div>Do a pre selection of the most active on each
                        category  and then select at random the
                        participating one.</div>
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                      <div>just an idea</div>
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                      <div>Total for the pilot 9,000USD (3 x 3000USD) or</div>
                      <div>USD2500x 3 = 7500USD</div>
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                      <div>regards</div>
                      <div><br>
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                      <div>Johanna</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at
                        2:21 PM, Jim Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span>
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                          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> A
                            suggestion. Because this is the first time
                            OWASP is directly funding this initiative,
                            can we start with a smaller financial
                            amount, measure success, and then consider
                            larger funding next year? I want to see how
                            we do first and would feel more comfortable
                            with a smaller experiment. <br>
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                            - Jim
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                                <div>On 4/19/15 8:27 AM, Konstantinos
                                  Papapanagiotou wrote:<br>
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                                          <div>Dear board,<br>
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                                          Following recent conversations
                                          I would like to formally
                                          submit a proposal for the
                                          OWASP Summer of Code Sprint,
                                          requesting a budget of
                                          $30,000.<br>
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                                        <div>The details of the proposal
                                          can be found here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FTC-zh__i6ft6uyZRw4rZHxOA44U6T7i33r8RkN0AXk/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FTC-zh__i6ft6uyZRw4rZHxOA44U6T7i33r8RkN0AXk/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
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                                        I believe that such initiatives
                                        are important for our mission as
                                        they combine project
                                        contributions and reaching out
                                        to students who are future
                                        developers.<br>
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                                      Looking forward to your comments,<br>
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                                    Kostas<br>
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