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    +1 Thank you Paul.<br>
    <br>
    - Jim<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/7/15 3:52 PM, Paul Ritchie wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAFme-WtaGk+=QES8tTDnuaRG3-dU8DCY_JC61N006kesJ0iVTg@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Team:
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>This thread is now over 70 comments long and its moved from
          strong passion to get a project up & running......to
          strong passion about each other's opinions on how to
          implement.  Strong opinions are a good thing when focused on
          the issue, rather than the person....especially in a volunteer
          community.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>And now....I'd like to see a new thread started with the
          project criteria based on <span class="" id=":6pu.1"
            tabindex="-1">everyone's</span> input, some schedule
          milestones & key tasks, with a BLANK under the name for
          'responsible party'.   Once "the plan" looks good, we can add
          people's names to handle each area....with the goal of
          technical competency balanced with transparency and fairness. 
          I think that is a 'winning' project plan that will get
          approved for the funding request.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I am happy to commit some of our staff resource to the
          project since it directly aligns with <span class=""
            id=":6pu.2" tabindex="-1">OWASP</span> 2015 Strategic Goals
          in areas of Training and Developer engagement.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Add my name to the list of people on the 'planning team' or
          task force to help define & finalize the project criteria.
           </div>
        <div>Project Coordinator resumes are being evaluated now by a
          small team from the community and we hope to have someone
          hired by end of month.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I trust that this will help us move forward.</div>
        <div>Cheers Paul</div>
      </div>
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        <div>
          <div class="gmail_signature">
            <div dir="ltr">
              <div>Best Regards, Paul Ritchie</div>
              <div>OWASP Interim Executive Director</div>
              <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:paul.ritchie@owasp.org" target="_blank">paul.ritchie@owasp.org</a></div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:11 PM,
          Konstantinos Papapanagiotou <span dir="ltr"><<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:Konstantinos@owasp.org" target="_blank">Konstantinos@owasp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">
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                <div>All,<br>
                  <br>
                </div>
                I'd like to help but before that I'd like to be 100%
                certain that there is no CoI if hackademic participates
                in the same sense it participated in last year's GSOC.<br>
                <br>
              </div>
              Kostas<br>
            </div>
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              <div class="h5">
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:31
                    PM, psiinon <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:psiinon@gmail.com" target="_blank">psiinon@gmail.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div>
                          <div>If it come to a vote then I'd be very
                            happy to back Kostas.<br>
                          </div>
                          I think he did an excellent job with GSoC.<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        Simon<br>
                      </div>
                      <div class="gmail_extra">
                        <div>
                          <div><br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015
                              at 5:26 PM, Fabio Cerullo <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org"
                                  target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Johanna
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Anybody is welcome to participate
                                    and don’t like to establish rules
                                    about ‘who’ should be participating
                                    as the ones you are suggesting.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>As mentioned earlier, I trust
                                    Kostas to do a great job and you are
                                    also welcome to participate in the
                                    org team / project mentor teams.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Having said that, I will progress
                                    with the project proposal working
                                    with him which to my view is
                                    transparent and open to everyone.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>If someone from the Global Board
                                    disagrees, please let me know.
                                    Otherwise I will seek budget
                                    approval for this to move ahead.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Thanks,</div>
                                  <div><span><br>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
                                          <div>Fabio Cerullo</div>
                                          <div>Global Board Member</div>
                                          OWASP Foundation
                                          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <br>
                                    </span>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                            <div>On 7 Apr 2015, at
                                              16:01, johanna curiel
                                              curiel <<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:johanna.curiel@owasp.org"
                                                target="_blank">johanna.curiel@owasp.org</a>>
                                              wrote:</div>
                                            <br>
                                            <div>
                                              <div dir="ltr"><span
                                                  style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">I
                                                  would definitely
                                                  support Kostas as
                                                  overall program admin
                                                  in case he is
                                                  interested. Do you
                                                  agree?</span><br>
                                                <div><span
                                                    style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                  </span></div>
                                                <div><span
                                                    style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">I
                                                    think this should be
                                                    submitted to a
                                                    vote, especially depending
                                                    if Kostas wants to
                                                    mentor a project or
                                                    if hackademics is
                                                    also participating </span></div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                  Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at
                                                  10:56 AM, Fabio
                                                  Cerullo <span
                                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                  wrote:<br>
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                                                    <div
                                                      style="word-wrap:break-word">I
                                                      think the 2
                                                      mentors per
                                                      student slot makes
                                                      sense. In case one
                                                      of the mentors get
                                                      sick, etc.
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Based on the
                                                        feedback
                                                        received and the
                                                        iterations so
                                                        far, it seems we
                                                        have a strong
                                                        proposal to put
                                                        up for voting.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>I would
                                                        definitely
                                                        support Kostas
                                                        as overall
                                                        program admin in
                                                        case he is
                                                        interested. Do
                                                        you agree?</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Thanks,</div>
                                                      <div><span><br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div>Fabio
                                                          Cerullo</div>
                                                          <div>Global
                                                          Board Member</div>
                                                          OWASP
                                                          Foundation
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </span>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>On 7 Apr
                                                          2015, at
                                                          15:46, johanna
                                                          curiel curiel
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:johanna.curiel@owasp.org" target="_blank">johanna.curiel@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">What do you think? I don’t have
                                                          time to setup
                                                          the wiki, etc
                                                          at present but
                                                          would welcome
                                                          your help.</span><br>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">I
                                                          think the
                                                          rules based on
                                                          stages seems
                                                          quite fair to
                                                          me, however,
                                                          that is my
                                                          opinion ;-),
                                                          another
                                                          important
                                                          criteria
                                                          should be how
                                                          many mentors
                                                          are available
                                                          per project to
                                                          provide
                                                          guidance. I
                                                          think 1
                                                          project leader
                                                          per student
                                                          should be the
                                                          minimum
                                                          (Google uses 2
                                                          mentors per
                                                          project/proposal)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Also
                                                          it should be
                                                          clear , in
                                                          case a mentor
                                                          is not able to
                                                          followup or
                                                          continue with
                                                          mentoring what
                                                          should be done
                                                          and who should
                                                          follow up this
                                                          (the org
                                                          team),
                                                          therefore ,
                                                          when volunteers want
                                                          to be part of
                                                          the
                                                          program(whether org
                                                          team/mentor)
                                                          they must know
                                                          their responsibilities,
                                                          after all ,
                                                          we don't want
                                                          to waste money
                                                          well intended.</span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Fabio,
                                                          if you have no
                                                          time to set
                                                          the wiki,
                                                          someone must
                                                          take the lead
                                                          to do this,
                                                          based on what
                                                          you have
                                                          proposed, it
                                                          seems to me
                                                          that the
                                                          person responsible or in-charge of
                                                          the program
                                                          should do
                                                          this. Is it
                                                          clear who is
                                                          this person?
                                                          (will it be
                                                          Kostas? other ones?)</span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">When
                                                          i take
                                                          an initiative,
                                                          I have always
                                                          followed these
                                                          steps
                                                          (wiki-proposal,
                                                          publish info,
                                                          get
                                                          reactions/adapt)
                                                          so it is as
                                                          much
                                                          transparent as
                                                          I can do. It
                                                          is a lot of
                                                          work but this
                                                          is part of
                                                          our responsibilities when
                                                          managing these
                                                          kind of
                                                          initiatives.</span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">regards</span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Johanna</span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Tue, Apr 7,
                                                          2015 at 10:37
                                                          AM, Fabio
                                                          Cerullo <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          style="word-wrap:break-word">Johanna,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks
                                                          for asking.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I thought
                                                          about the slot
                                                          allocation and
                                                          maybe the
                                                          criteria is
                                                          the ‘maturity’
                                                          of the
                                                          project.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Project_Stages"
                                                          target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Project_Stages</a></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>So, based
                                                          on the project
                                                          current
                                                          status:
                                                          Incubator,
                                                          Lab, Flagship
                                                          it is decided
                                                          the max amount
                                                          of slots.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Flagship:
                                                          Max 3 slots</div>
                                                          <div>Lab: Max
                                                          2 slots</div>
                                                          <div>Incubator:
                                                          Max 1 slot</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>What do
                                                          you think? I
                                                          don’t have
                                                          time to setup
                                                          the wiki, etc
                                                          at present but
                                                          would welcome
                                                          your help.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div>Fabio
                                                          Cerullo</div>
                                                          <div>Global
                                                          Board Member</div>
                                                          OWASP
                                                          Foundation
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>On 7 Apr
                                                          2015, at
                                                          15:24, johanna
                                                          curiel curiel
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:johanna.curiel@owasp.org" target="_blank">johanna.curiel@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">5) Finally, the org team in
                                                          conjunction
                                                          with the
                                                          project
                                                          mentors team
                                                          then decide
                                                          how many slots
                                                          each project
                                                          will get.</span><br>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">I
                                                          think , in
                                                          order to avoid
                                                          any conflict
                                                          of interest,
                                                          the org team
                                                          members should
                                                          be </span><span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">an independent member with no ties
                                                          to any of
                                                          the participating</span><span
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"> projects</span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">So
                                                          I would like
                                                          to formally
                                                          request a
                                                          budget of USD
                                                          30K (3K per
                                                          slot with a
                                                          max of 10
                                                          slots) to move
                                                          ahead with
                                                          this process.</span><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">A
                                                          clear criteria
                                                          should exist
                                                          before any
                                                          approvals are
                                                          exercised. </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">The
                                                          board should
                                                          ask :</span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><i>Do
                                                          we have clear
                                                          criteria for
                                                          this program?</i></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">In
                                                          my opinion,
                                                          no, just a
                                                          bunch of
                                                          emails.</span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><i>Has
                                                          it been openly
                                                          defined for
                                                          all potential
                                                          participating
                                                          members and
                                                          project
                                                          leaders?</i></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">No,
                                                          it should be
                                                          published on a
                                                          Wiki and send
                                                          through the
                                                          community
                                                          /owasp-leaders
                                                          list for
                                                          people to
                                                          comment and
                                                          agree. At
                                                          least a clear
                                                          proposal
                                                          should be
                                                          setup and
                                                          published.</span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">After
                                                          this process
                                                          then I think
                                                          we could go
                                                          ahead and
                                                          approve,
                                                          because its
                                                          clear what are
                                                          the rules for
                                                          participation.
                                                          There are
                                                          still some
                                                          issues that I
                                                          see as
                                                          potential
                                                          conflicts such
                                                          as </span><i
style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">for example</i><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">:</span></div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <ul>
                                                          <li><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">How
                                                          many slots can
                                                          a project get?</span><br>
                                                          </li>
                                                          <li><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Should
                                                          a project get
                                                          more slots
                                                          than others?</span></li>
                                                          <li><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Based
                                                          on what <i>exact</i>
                                                           criteria
                                                          should we
                                                          provide slots?</span></li>
                                                          <li><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Should
                                                          the org team
                                                          have tights
                                                          (such as being
                                                          an active
                                                          volunteer) to
                                                          the
                                                          participating
                                                          project(this
                                                          can be
                                                          conflict of
                                                          interest)</span></li>
                                                          </ul>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">regards</span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Johanna</span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Tue, Apr 7,
                                                          2015 at 9:28
                                                          AM, Fabio
                                                          Cerullo <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Tobias,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks
                                                          for your
                                                          comments.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I think
                                                          an escalation
                                                          procedure on
                                                          step #5 is in
                                                          order in case
                                                          there is a
                                                          disagreement
                                                          between the
                                                          org team and
                                                          the project
                                                          mentors team
                                                          about slots.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>So I
                                                          would like to
                                                          formally
                                                          request a
                                                          budget of USD
                                                          30K (3K per
                                                          slot with a
                                                          max of 10
                                                          slots) to move
                                                          ahead with
                                                          this process.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I will
                                                          appreciate the
                                                          support from
                                                          fellow Board
                                                          members to
                                                          make this
                                                          happen.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks,</div>
                                                          <span><br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div>Fabio
                                                          Cerullo</div>
                                                          <div>Global
                                                          Board Member</div>
                                                          OWASP
                                                          Foundation
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>On 7 Apr
                                                          2015, at
                                                          13:49, Tobias
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tobias.gondrom@owasp.org" target="_blank">tobias.gondrom@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
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                                                          <div>Sounds
                                                          fair to me. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          With one
                                                          suggested
                                                          addition: if
                                                          there is
                                                          disagreement
                                                          in step #5, I
                                                          like to see
                                                          this reported
                                                          to the org
                                                          team / board /
                                                          community for
                                                          resolution
                                                          without
                                                          conflict of
                                                          interest. <br>
                                                          If the teams
                                                          agree with the
                                                          resolution of
                                                          step #5, I am
                                                          happy and
                                                          favour to go
                                                          ahead. If
                                                          there is
                                                          serious
                                                          disagreement,
                                                          I like to hear
                                                          about it. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Best, Tobias<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 07/04/15
                                                          05:33, Fabio
                                                          Cerullo wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>Jim,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Please
                                                          allow me to
                                                          explain a
                                                          submission
                                                          process might
                                                          work for
                                                          everyone:</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>1)
                                                          Student review
                                                          the ideas
                                                          suggested by
                                                          mentors. For
                                                          example, GSOC
                                                          2015 Ideas: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/GSoC2015_Ideas"
target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/GSoC2015_Ideas</a></div>
                                                          <div>2) Based
                                                          on those
                                                          ideas, the
                                                          students
                                                          submit their
                                                          own
                                                          ideas/projects.
                                                          Usually there
                                                          are dozens of
                                                          ideas
                                                          submitted by
                                                          students, some
                                                          are good, some
                                                          are poor, and
                                                          some are
                                                          completely
                                                          new. The
                                                          mentors are
                                                          not involved
                                                          at this stage
                                                          other than
                                                          answering
                                                          questions to
                                                          the students.
                                                          There is a
                                                          deadline for
                                                          the students
                                                          submission.</div>
                                                          <div>3) The
                                                          'project
                                                          leaders/mentors
                                                          team' are the
                                                          ones who
                                                          evaluate and
                                                          pick the best
                                                          students
                                                          proposals
                                                          because they
                                                          know about
                                                          their
                                                          projects. In
                                                          the past, we
                                                          allowed all
                                                          mentors to
                                                          score all
                                                          proposals and
                                                          that is what
                                                          caused an
                                                          issue because
                                                          some people
                                                          ‘down voted’
                                                          other
                                                          proposals to
                                                          let their own
                                                          proposals to
                                                          score higher. </div>
                                                          <div>4) The
                                                          'org team'
                                                          makes sure
                                                          that there is
                                                          no wrong doing
                                                          by reviewing
                                                          scores/etc.
                                                          Last year, the
                                                          issue above
                                                          was identified
                                                          by
                                                          Kostas/staff
                                                          and it was
                                                          promptly
                                                          addressed. An
                                                          additional
                                                          control that
                                                          could be
                                                          implemented,
                                                          and we were
                                                          hoping to
                                                          implement this
                                                          year at GSOC,
                                                          is that no
                                                          mentor could
                                                          vote on other
                                                          project
                                                          proposals
                                                          (e.g. ZAP
                                                          mentors cannot
                                                          down vote on
                                                          OWTF proposals
                                                          and
                                                          viceversa). So
                                                          that will
                                                          bubble up
                                                          naturally all
                                                          the best
                                                          proposals for
                                                          each
                                                          corresponding
                                                          project based
                                                          on scores from
                                                          the project
                                                          leaders/mentors. </div>
                                                          <div>5)
                                                          Finally, the
                                                          org team in
                                                          conjunction
                                                          with the
                                                          project
                                                          mentors team
                                                          then decide
                                                          how many slots
                                                          each project
                                                          will get.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Does it
                                                          sound fair?</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div>Fabio
                                                          Cerullo</div>
                                                          <div>Global
                                                          Board Member</div>
                                                          OWASP
                                                          Foundation
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>On 6 Apr
                                                          2015, at
                                                          20:07, Jim
                                                          Manico <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org"
                                                          target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>I suggest
                                                          the mentors
                                                          work with
                                                          students to
                                                          make great
                                                          proposals and<br>
                                                          have a
                                                          •different
                                                          group vote on
                                                          who wins•. The
                                                          whole issue
                                                          was mentors<br>
                                                          voting on
                                                          projects and
                                                          we should
                                                          consider
                                                          avoiding that
                                                          if we<br>
                                                          replicate a
                                                          similar
                                                          program at
                                                          OWASP.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          Jim Manico<br>
                                                          @Manicode<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%28808%29%20652-3805" value="+18086523805" target="_blank">(808)
                                                          652-3805</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">On
                                                          Apr 6, 2015,
                                                          at 10:04 AM,
                                                          Fabio Cerullo
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>>

                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The ‘Mentors
                                                          team’ will
                                                          review/score
                                                          the proposals
                                                          and select the
                                                          best ones with
                                                          an oversight
                                                          from the
                                                          ‘Organisation
                                                          Team’.<br>
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