<div dir="ltr">last Gsoc, mentors :<div><ul><li>Insulted mentors<br></li><li>Expressed their anger regarding the process</li><li>Cheated on downgrading votes<br></li><li>Cheated because they were downgraded<br></li><li>Accused members of not being fair<br></li><li>Quitted because didn't like the rules imposed and changes on the process<br></li></ul><div>So if I look at all these things, no I can't say I really felt like it was 'great'.</div></div><div><br></div><div>It is a lot of work and I believe Kostas, within his available time, tried to manage the situations and conflicts, but if we analyze them and try to learn from what happened,I think it was mainly because the rules and criteria were not clear to the participants</div><div><br></div><div>So again, based on the lessons learned, lets hope that when trying to start such as initiative, we can apply what we learned.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Jim Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    +1 I agree with Johanna. I participated and watched the entire email
    chain last year. I am again NOT saying that anyone was unethical,
    but it was confusing, there were several who leveraged complaints
    and it felt very disorganized and chaotic.<br>
    <br>
    This is just my opinion.<br>
    <br>
    I would love to understand (1) how the process will work and (2) how
    'conflict of interests' will be handled before the board votes on
    this rather large budget request. This is nothing special to this
    potential project, it's something we do or should be doing for any
    OWASP activity.<br>
    <br>
    Aloha,<br>
    Jim<div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 4/7/15 11:33 AM, johanna curiel
      curiel wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Anybody
          is welcome to participate and don’t like to establish rules
          about ‘who’ should be participating as the ones you are
          suggesting.</span><br>
        <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Fabio, the rules
            regarding 'conflict of interest' should be there to avoid
            any disagreements. Despite the fact that you mentioned how
            well Kostas lead the Gsoc, anyone who followed the last Gsoc
            email listing, can say that there were always discussions
            because rules where not clear. </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Any auditing
            will always highlight conflict of interest as an issue and I
            hope that you understand my p.o.w.</span></div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Fabio
          Cerullo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Johanna
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Anybody is welcome to participate and don’t like to
                establish rules about ‘who’ should be participating as
                the ones you are suggesting.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>As mentioned earlier, I trust Kostas to do a great
                job and you are also welcome to participate in the org
                team / project mentor teams.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Having said that, I will progress with the project
                proposal working with him which to my view is
                transparent and open to everyone.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>If someone from the Global Board disagrees, please
                let me know. Otherwise I will seek budget approval for
                this to move ahead.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Thanks,</div>
              <div><span><br>
                  <div>
                    <div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
                      <div>Fabio Cerullo</div>
                      <div>Global Board Member</div>
                      OWASP Foundation
                      <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <br>
                </span>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div>On 7 Apr 2015, at 16:01, johanna curiel
                          curiel <<a href="mailto:johanna.curiel@owasp.org" target="_blank">johanna.curiel@owasp.org</a>>
                          wrote:</div>
                        <br>
                        <div>
                          <div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">I
                              would definitely support Kostas as overall
                              program admin in case he is interested. Do
                              you agree?</span><br>
                            <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                              </span></div>
                            <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">I
                                think this should be submitted to a
                                vote, especially depending if Kostas
                                wants to mentor a project or if
                                hackademics is also participating </span></div>
                          </div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015
                              at 10:56 AM, Fabio Cerullo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                <div style="word-wrap:break-word">I
                                  think the 2 mentors per student slot
                                  makes sense. In case one of the
                                  mentors get sick, etc.
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Based on the feedback received
                                    and the iterations so far, it seems
                                    we have a strong proposal to put up
                                    for voting.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>I would definitely support Kostas
                                    as overall program admin in case he
                                    is interested. Do you agree?</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Thanks,</div>
                                  <div><span><br>
                                      <div>
                                        <div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
                                          <div>Fabio Cerullo</div>
                                          <div>Global Board Member</div>
                                          OWASP Foundation
                                          <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <br>
                                    </span>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                            <div>On 7 Apr 2015, at
                                              15:46, johanna curiel
                                              curiel <<a href="mailto:johanna.curiel@owasp.org" target="_blank">johanna.curiel@owasp.org</a>>
                                              wrote:</div>
                                            <br>
                                            <div>
                                              <div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">What
                                                  do you think? I don’t
                                                  have time to setup the
                                                  wiki, etc at present
                                                  but would welcome your
                                                  help.</span><br>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                  </span></div>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">I
                                                    think the rules
                                                    based on stages
                                                    seems quite fair to
                                                    me, however, that is
                                                    my opinion ;-),
                                                    another important
                                                    criteria should be
                                                    how many mentors are
                                                    available per
                                                    project to provide
                                                    guidance. I think 1
                                                    project leader per
                                                    student should be
                                                    the minimum (Google
                                                    uses 2 mentors per
                                                    project/proposal)</span></div>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                  </span></div>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Also
                                                    it should be clear ,
                                                    in case a mentor is
                                                    not able to followup
                                                    or continue with
                                                    mentoring what
                                                    should be done and
                                                    who should follow up
                                                    this (the org team),
                                                    therefore ,
                                                    when volunteers want
                                                    to be part of the
                                                    program(whether org
                                                    team/mentor) they
                                                    must know
                                                    their responsibilities,
                                                    after all ,
                                                    we don't want to
                                                    waste money well
                                                    intended.</span></div>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                  </span></div>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Fabio,
                                                    if you have no time
                                                    to set the wiki,
                                                    someone must take
                                                    the lead to do this,
                                                    based on what you
                                                    have proposed, it
                                                    seems to me that the
                                                    person responsible or in-charge of
                                                    the program should
                                                    do this. Is it clear
                                                    who is this person?
                                                    (will it be
                                                    Kostas? other ones?)</span></div>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                  </span></div>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">When
                                                    i take
                                                    an initiative, I
                                                    have always followed
                                                    these steps
                                                    (wiki-proposal,
                                                    publish info, get
                                                    reactions/adapt) so
                                                    it is as much
                                                    transparent as I can
                                                    do. It is a lot of
                                                    work but this is
                                                    part of
                                                    our responsibilities when
                                                    managing these kind
                                                    of initiatives.</span></div>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                  </span></div>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">regards</span></div>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                  </span></div>
                                                <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Johanna</span></div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                  Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at
                                                  10:37 AM, Fabio
                                                  Cerullo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                  wrote:<br>
                                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                    <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Johanna,
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Thanks for
                                                        asking.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>I thought
                                                        about the slot
                                                        allocation and
                                                        maybe the
                                                        criteria is the
                                                        ‘maturity’ of
                                                        the project.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Project_Stages" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Project_Stages</a></div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>So, based on
                                                        the project
                                                        current status:
                                                        Incubator, Lab,
                                                        Flagship it is
                                                        decided the max
                                                        amount of slots.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Flagship: Max
                                                        3 slots</div>
                                                      <div>Lab: Max 2
                                                        slots</div>
                                                      <div>Incubator:
                                                        Max 1 slot</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>What do you
                                                        think? I don’t
                                                        have time to
                                                        setup the wiki,
                                                        etc at present
                                                        but would
                                                        welcome your
                                                        help.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Thanks,</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div><span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div>Fabio
                                                          Cerullo</div>
                                                          <div>Global
                                                          Board Member</div>
                                                          OWASP
                                                          Foundation
                                                          <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </span>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>On 7 Apr
                                                          2015, at
                                                          15:24, johanna
                                                          curiel curiel
                                                          <<a href="mailto:johanna.curiel@owasp.org" target="_blank">johanna.curiel@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">5) Finally, the org team in
                                                          conjunction
                                                          with the
                                                          project
                                                          mentors team
                                                          then decide
                                                          how many slots
                                                          each project
                                                          will get.</span><br>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">I
                                                          think , in
                                                          order to avoid
                                                          any conflict
                                                          of interest,
                                                          the org team
                                                          members should
                                                          be </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">an independent member with no ties
                                                          to any of
                                                          the participating</span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"> projects</span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">So
                                                          I would like
                                                          to formally
                                                          request a
                                                          budget of USD
                                                          30K (3K per
                                                          slot with a
                                                          max of 10
                                                          slots) to move
                                                          ahead with
                                                          this process.</span><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">A
                                                          clear criteria
                                                          should exist
                                                          before any
                                                          approvals are
                                                          exercised. </span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">The
                                                          board should
                                                          ask :</span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><i>Do
                                                          we have clear
                                                          criteria for
                                                          this program?</i></span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">In
                                                          my opinion,
                                                          no, just a
                                                          bunch of
                                                          emails.</span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><i>Has
                                                          it been openly
                                                          defined for
                                                          all potential
                                                          participating
                                                          members and
                                                          project
                                                          leaders?</i></span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">No,
                                                          it should be
                                                          published on a
                                                          Wiki and send
                                                          through the
                                                          community
                                                          /owasp-leaders
                                                          list for
                                                          people to
                                                          comment and
                                                          agree. At
                                                          least a clear
                                                          proposal
                                                          should be
                                                          setup and
                                                          published.</span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">After
                                                          this process
                                                          then I think
                                                          we could go
                                                          ahead and
                                                          approve,
                                                          because its
                                                          clear what are
                                                          the rules for
                                                          participation.
                                                          There are
                                                          still some
                                                          issues that I
                                                          see as
                                                          potential
                                                          conflicts such
                                                          as </span><i style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">for example</i><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">:</span></div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <ul>
                                                          <li><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">How
                                                          many slots can
                                                          a project get?</span><br>
                                                          </li>
                                                          <li><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Should
                                                          a project get
                                                          more slots
                                                          than others?</span></li>
                                                          <li><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Based
                                                          on what <i>exact</i>
                                                           criteria
                                                          should we
                                                          provide slots?</span></li>
                                                          <li><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Should
                                                          the org team
                                                          have tights
                                                          (such as being
                                                          an active
                                                          volunteer) to
                                                          the
                                                          participating
                                                          project(this
                                                          can be
                                                          conflict of
                                                          interest)</span></li>
                                                          </ul>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">regards</span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Johanna</span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Tue, Apr 7,
                                                          2015 at 9:28
                                                          AM, Fabio
                                                          Cerullo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Tobias,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks
                                                          for your
                                                          comments.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I think
                                                          an escalation
                                                          procedure on
                                                          step #5 is in
                                                          order in case
                                                          there is a
                                                          disagreement
                                                          between the
                                                          org team and
                                                          the project
                                                          mentors team
                                                          about slots.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>So I
                                                          would like to
                                                          formally
                                                          request a
                                                          budget of USD
                                                          30K (3K per
                                                          slot with a
                                                          max of 10
                                                          slots) to move
                                                          ahead with
                                                          this process.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I will
                                                          appreciate the
                                                          support from
                                                          fellow Board
                                                          members to
                                                          make this
                                                          happen.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Thanks,</div>
                                                          <span><br>
                                                          <div>
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                                                          <div>Fabio
                                                          Cerullo</div>
                                                          <div>Global
                                                          Board Member</div>
                                                          OWASP
                                                          Foundation
                                                          <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div>On 7 Apr
                                                          2015, at
                                                          13:49, Tobias
                                                          <<a href="mailto:tobias.gondrom@owasp.org" target="_blank">tobias.gondrom@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
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                                                          <div>Sounds
                                                          fair to me. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          With one
                                                          suggested
                                                          addition: if
                                                          there is
                                                          disagreement
                                                          in step #5, I
                                                          like to see
                                                          this reported
                                                          to the org
                                                          team / board /
                                                          community for
                                                          resolution
                                                          without
                                                          conflict of
                                                          interest. <br>
                                                          If the teams
                                                          agree with the
                                                          resolution of
                                                          step #5, I am
                                                          happy and
                                                          favour to go
                                                          ahead. If
                                                          there is
                                                          serious
                                                          disagreement,
                                                          I like to hear
                                                          about it. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Best, Tobias<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 07/04/15
                                                          05:33, Fabio
                                                          Cerullo wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Jim,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Please
                                                          allow me to
                                                          explain a
                                                          submission
                                                          process might
                                                          work for
                                                          everyone:</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>1)
                                                          Student review
                                                          the ideas
                                                          suggested by
                                                          mentors. For
                                                          example, GSOC
                                                          2015 Ideas: <a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/GSoC2015_Ideas" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/GSoC2015_Ideas</a></div>
                                                          <div>2) Based
                                                          on those
                                                          ideas, the
                                                          students
                                                          submit their
                                                          own
                                                          ideas/projects.
                                                          Usually there
                                                          are dozens of
                                                          ideas
                                                          submitted by
                                                          students, some
                                                          are good, some
                                                          are poor, and
                                                          some are
                                                          completely
                                                          new. The
                                                          mentors are
                                                          not involved
                                                          at this stage
                                                          other than
                                                          answering
                                                          questions to
                                                          the students.
                                                          There is a
                                                          deadline for
                                                          the students
                                                          submission.</div>
                                                          <div>3) The
                                                          'project
                                                          leaders/mentors
                                                          team' are the
                                                          ones who
                                                          evaluate and
                                                          pick the best
                                                          students
                                                          proposals
                                                          because they
                                                          know about
                                                          their
                                                          projects. In
                                                          the past, we
                                                          allowed all
                                                          mentors to
                                                          score all
                                                          proposals and
                                                          that is what
                                                          caused an
                                                          issue because
                                                          some people
                                                          ‘down voted’
                                                          other
                                                          proposals to
                                                          let their own
                                                          proposals to
                                                          score higher. </div>
                                                          <div>4) The
                                                          'org team'
                                                          makes sure
                                                          that there is
                                                          no wrong doing
                                                          by reviewing
                                                          scores/etc.
                                                          Last year, the
                                                          issue above
                                                          was identified
                                                          by
                                                          Kostas/staff
                                                          and it was
                                                          promptly
                                                          addressed. An
                                                          additional
                                                          control that
                                                          could be
                                                          implemented,
                                                          and we were
                                                          hoping to
                                                          implement this
                                                          year at GSOC,
                                                          is that no
                                                          mentor could
                                                          vote on other
                                                          project
                                                          proposals
                                                          (e.g. ZAP
                                                          mentors cannot
                                                          down vote on
                                                          OWTF proposals
                                                          and
                                                          viceversa). So
                                                          that will
                                                          bubble up
                                                          naturally all
                                                          the best
                                                          proposals for
                                                          each
                                                          corresponding
                                                          project based
                                                          on scores from
                                                          the project
                                                          leaders/mentors. </div>
                                                          <div>5)
                                                          Finally, the
                                                          org team in
                                                          conjunction
                                                          with the
                                                          project
                                                          mentors team
                                                          then decide
                                                          how many slots
                                                          each project
                                                          will get.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Does it
                                                          sound fair?</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
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                                                          <div>Fabio
                                                          Cerullo</div>
                                                          <div>Global
                                                          Board Member</div>
                                                          OWASP
                                                          Foundation
                                                          <div><a href="https://www.owasp.org/" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org</a></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div>On 6 Apr
                                                          2015, at
                                                          20:07, Jim
                                                          Manico <<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
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                                                          <div>I suggest
                                                          the mentors
                                                          work with
                                                          students to
                                                          make great
                                                          proposals and<br>
                                                          have a
                                                          •different
                                                          group vote on
                                                          who wins•. The
                                                          whole issue
                                                          was mentors<br>
                                                          voting on
                                                          projects and
                                                          we should
                                                          consider
                                                          avoiding that
                                                          if we<br>
                                                          replicate a
                                                          similar
                                                          program at
                                                          OWASP.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          Jim Manico<br>
                                                          @Manicode<br>
                                                          <a href="tel:%28808%29%20652-3805" value="+18086523805" target="_blank">(808)
                                                          652-3805</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">On
                                                          Apr 6, 2015,
                                                          at 10:04 AM,
                                                          Fabio Cerullo
                                                          <<a href="mailto:fcerullo@owasp.org" target="_blank">fcerullo@owasp.org</a>>

                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The ‘Mentors
                                                          team’ will
                                                          review/score
                                                          the proposals
                                                          and select the
                                                          best ones with
                                                          an oversight
                                                          from the
                                                          ‘Organisation
                                                          Team’.<br>
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