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    Michael,<br>
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    I've kept an eye on the OWASP LinkedIn groups and I find the
    conversations there to often be of low quality. It's basically "one
    giant email list".<br>
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    LinkedIn and Twitter are good places to broadcast news, but I do not
    see them as the best social platforms. Facebook is decent, but
    again, conversation quality is often low. Keep in mind that a
    significant percentage of our security-minded community is often
    adverse to deep use of social media.<br>
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    Email lists are very low bar to entry and will always be important.
    I personally think Google Groups is the best threaded-conversation
    tool, but I realize China blocking Google is a problem.<br>
    <br>
    My 2 cents,<br>
    Jim<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/7/14, 3:22 PM, Michael Coates
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            <div>Thanks for the info. Where would someone go to join the
              main conversations? I poked around a bit and found this
              page. Is this the main spot?<br>
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            It seems the our leaders list may be generating more
            discussions at the moment.<br>
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          In terms of social media platforms our most joined platform is
          linkedin - 17k group members<br>
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        <div>Sure, it doesn't have any of the capabilities of ning - but
          if we're looking to reach an audience and have a threaded
          conversation, then that is the place to go.<br>
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            --<br>
            Michael Coates<br>
            @_mwc<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Josh
          Sokol <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div dir="ltr">Ning started out as a tool that was being
              used solely by the OWASP Austin Chapter.  As we had (and
              continue to have) much success with it as a coordination
              platform, I asked the Board to sponsor an experiment to
              roll it out to the greater organization.  We've been on
              the Ning platform for almost 3 years now and have:<br>
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                <li>307 members signed up to use it</li>
                <li>17 public groups representing multiple chapters,
                  projects, conferences, and more general appsec topics</li>
                <li>31 photos uploaded by participants</li>
                <li>10 videos uploaded by participants representing
                  everything from membership plugs to conference
                  recordings to OWASP tools</li>
                <li>9 blog posts (definitely smaller than I'd like to
                  see)</li>
                <li>Forum posts split into 9 different topical
                  categories</li>
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              <p>We haven't been keeping detailed stats beyond that, but
                it does give us the ability to use Google Analytics if
                we so chose.  Authentication can use Google, Facebook,
                Twitter, and other methods as well.  I can export a list
                of current users if you're interested in further
                dissecting the "who" is using it currently.  It has
                role-based access controls so, as an example, I can be
                site admin, but allow others to moderate content, etc. 
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                <li>Current Ning 2.0 Platform:  <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://my.owasp.org"
                    target="_blank">http://my.owasp.org</a></li>
                <li>New Ning 3.0 Platform (testing):  <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://myowasp2.ning.com" target="_blank">http://myowasp2.ning.com</a></li>
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              <p>My general feeling about it is that it's a great
                platform for social media presence as it integrates all
                of the other things people are doing (Twitter, Blogs,
                Messaging, Forums) into a single system.  It hasn't been
                extremely well utilized beyond a few niche groups to
                date, but it also hasn't been widely publicized either
                beyond an e-mail or two from me early on in 2011.  There
                are currently 18 administrators on the system including
                myself, Sarah, Michael, and Tom.  I also just found
                Samantha in the system as well (for some reason my
                search didn't turn her up before).</p>
              <p>I hope that answers your questions.</p>
              <p>~josh<br>
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                        <div>Josh & Board,<br>
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                        We're talking a lot about ning. Since it's come
                        up a few times I have some questions.<br>
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                        How much is it being used? Do we have numbers on
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                        people have accounts? How many
                        edits/posts/updates per month?<br>
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                        Who is admin - is this ops team owned or an
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                              <div>Aside from the quantitative questions
                                above - what's the general feeling about
                                it. Are people using it for some
                                particular items instead of others? What
                                are it's strengths and weaknesses?<br>
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                                Thanks!<br>
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                                --<br>
                                Michael Coates<br>
                                @_mwc<br>
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