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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dennis;<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Would be ideal if you were to provide<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>A link to this OWASP event for context as all of the regional and global events are here.. nothing today </span><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_AppSec_Conference">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_AppSec_Conference</a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>If this is a local chapter… what chapter? – what violations are you concerned with? </span><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:Chapter_Handbook">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:Chapter_Handbook</a><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>ß</span><span style='color:#1F497D'> the policy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have been saying for *<b>cough</b>* years now that we need to conduct a SURVEY of all chapters this provides a global heath check and areas of improvements reinforced by such chapter workshops at conferences etc.. when people attend. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Chapters understand there is oversight from OWASP Foundation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Chapters members have a voice and if the membership speaks with consensus of the chapter things will change including revoke of the charter from its then leaders and leadership change.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The good thing is that we are growing… management of that growth is fun and with that we have to help everyone focus on one key principal of the now current organization that has matured since founding in 2001. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tom Brennan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>International Board of Direectors<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NYC/NJ Chapter Leader<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(t) 973-202-0122<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(w) </span><a href="http://www.owasp.org"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>www.owasp.org</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Want to help with AppSecUSA 2013? Here is what we need sign up and help out!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://sl.owasp.org/appsecusa13_volunteer_jobs" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>http://sl.owasp.org/appsecusa13_volunteer_jobs</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Eoin [mailto:eoin.keary@owasp.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Dennis Groves<br><b>Cc:</b> OWASP Leaders; Dinis Cruz; Dave Wichers; Seba Deleersnyder; Jim Manico; Andrew van der Stock; Michael Coates; Tom Brennan; Matt Tesauro<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: REQ: feedback reguarding abuse of OWASP resources by commercial organisations…<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Please contact Kate so we can look into this. <br><br>Eoin Keary<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Owasp Global Board<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>+353 87 977 2988<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 12 Feb 2013, at 19:28, "Dennis Groves" <<a href="mailto:dennis.groves@owasp.org">dennis.groves@owasp.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p>Dear Leaders,<o:p></o:p></p><p>Today I had the unfortunate experience of attending an OWASP conference that was entirely commercial. <o:p></o:p></p><p>So much so that the conference organisers did not even take my questions! OWASP was not even mentioned during the entire one hour conference; but many, many vendors were mentioned. Additionally, the 'referred' to the 'website' many times; and the only site I could find using the particular term that they used which happened to be unique; did not lead to OWASP or the OWASP community. <o:p></o:p></p><p>I personally think that if it is good for the businesses it is good for OWASP, I want OWASP to help small businesses to be successful. <o:p></o:p></p><p>I am going to break some rules here; but <strong>WhiteHat Security, Aspect Security and Security Innovation</strong> are great examples of how to be good corporate OWASP citizens. All three invest heavily into OWASP and clearly must benefit from that relationship or they would quit doing so. (My apologies to all the other great corporate citizen who I have not mentioned in this email.)<o:p></o:p></p><p>What I saw today was a company using OWASP to foot the bill on their conference/sales call. Personally, it would be best for those who abused OWASP today to engage with us; we want you to succeed - but flagrant abuse of the type I saw today is plainly unacceptable; it is simply theft of OWASP resources.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I would like to know what the other leaders feel we should do in such circumstances?<o:p></o:p></p><p>Respectfully,<o:p></o:p></p><p>Dennis<o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p><a href="http://about.me/dennis.groves">Dennis Groves</a>, MSc<br><a href="mailto:dennis.groves@owasp.org">Email me</a> or <a href="http://goo.gl/8sPIy">schedule a meeting</a>.<o:p></o:p></p><p><em>This email is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/deed.en_GB">CC BY-ND 3.0</a> license.</em><o:p></o:p></p><p><strong>Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents.</strong><br>Send <a href="http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/">OpenDocument</a> instead!<br>Stand up for your freedom to install <a href="http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot/statement">free software</a>.<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p>The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that’s wrong with the world. -- Paul Farmer<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'>Know<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'>Feel<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'>Do<o:p></o:p></li></ul><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p><a href="http://about.me/dennis.groves">Dennis Groves</a>, MSc<br><a href="mailto:dennis.groves@owasp.org">Email me</a> or <a href="http://goo.gl/8sPIy">schedule a meeting</a>.<o:p></o:p></p><p><em>This email is licensed under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/deed.en_GB">CC BY-ND 3.0</a> license.</em><o:p></o:p></p><p><strong>Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents.</strong><br>Send <a href="http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/">OpenDocument</a> instead!<br>Stand up for your freedom to install <a href="http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot/statement">free software</a>.<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p>The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that’s wrong with the world. -- Paul Farmer<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>