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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I would definitely NOT ask Mike to continue. He has made it
clear that he is not interested. We need to figure out a way to continue on
without him.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
owasp-board-bounces@lists.owasp.org
[mailto:owasp-board-bounces@lists.owasp.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paulo Coimbra<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Andrew van der Stock'; 'Vishal Garg'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> owasp-guide@lists.owasp.org; 'OWASP Foundation Board List'; 'Global
Projects Committee'; kenowen@eowen.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Owasp-board] [Owasp-guide] Participating in the project<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Vishal, Andrew et al,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’ve consulted Owasp-guide Archives and it seems to me that even
if Michael Boberski isn’t being pointed out as project leader on the Project
Details page, he has been acting at least as its project manager.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-guide/">https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-guide/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Guide_Project#tab=Project_Details">http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Guide_Project#tab=Project_Details</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Being so, I propose we contact him to ask whether or not he
still wants to keep this pivotal position. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Also, in the event of a negative answer from Mike, I propose we
address both this project mailing list and the leaders’ one to announce the
project is seeking a new leader.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’ve also tried to find the project’s roadmap out and what I
found seemed not up-to-date.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_XXXXXX_Project_-_Roadmap">http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_XXXXXX_Project_-_Roadmap</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Guide_Project_Roadmap">http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Guide_Project_Roadmap</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thus, I also propose that after having clarified the leadership
question, we trigger the efforts to write down an ambitious but feasible
roadmap. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Please drop me a line and let me know your thoughts. Please also
let me know if I should contact Mike or if any of you want to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Paulo Coimbra,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page">OWASP
Project Manager</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Andrew van der
Stock [mailto:vanderaj@owasp.org] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> segunda-feira, 12 de Julho de 2010 01:18<br>
<b>To:</b> Vishal Garg<br>
<b>Cc:</b> owasp-guide@lists.owasp.org; kenowen@eowen.com; Paulo Coimbra<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Owasp-guide] Participating in the project<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I'm sure Mike will be back soon. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>I used to lead the project, but I am not
currently in a position to do that. I could provide direction and peer
review, but I'm no PM and have little time due to personal reasons. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>On 11/07/2010, at 5:16 AM, Vishal Garg
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB>Hi Ken,<br>
<br>
I have not been able to spend much time on the project lately, and will be able
to do so from next month. But I have not seen much activity from other members
as well and was thus wondering what is happening with the project at the
moment.<br>
<br>
As you said, not heard back from Mike, so not sure which direction the project
is going. Do you or anyone else working on the project has any idea who is
going to lead and provide directions to the project.<br>
<br>
Our other bet may be to get in touch with the projects committee and seek
advice from them.<br>
<br>
I have cc'ed this e-mail to Paulo as well, in case he has any information on
this.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Vishal<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Geoff Choo
<<a href="mailto:geoff.choo@gmail.com">geoff.choo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Could someone please let me know how I
could get involved in contributing to the project? I wrote to Mike but I have
not heard from him since.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:00 PM, <<a
href="mailto:owasp-guide-request@lists.owasp.org" target="_blank">owasp-guide-request@lists.owasp.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:47:27 -0400<br>
From: Ken Owen <<a href="mailto:kenowen@eowen.com" target="_blank">kenowen@eowen.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Owasp-guide] Guide progress<br>
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It appears that little has happened recently on the project. On my last<br>
contact with Mike, he said "My priorities have changed. Someone else<br>
will be picking up the mantle at some point for this effort." We'll see.<br>
I'm continuing to work on my pages. I just posted finished pages for the<br>
 'Approach' page and 'Adding Security Controls Into Your Solution<br>
Stack' and the first two sub-pages after it. Any comments would be<br>
appreciated.<br>
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Ken<br>
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