[Owasp-board] France Chapter

Matt Tesauro matt.tesauro at owaspfoundation.org
Wed Mar 6 16:23:05 UTC 2019

The owasp-france Mailman list on lists.owasp.org has been restored and
tested to confirm its working - see attached.

It will continue to work until March 22nd when Mailman will be retired.


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On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 6:11 PM Mike McCamon <
mike.mccamon at owaspfoundation.org> wrote:

> Good news. Before noon tomorrow US Central lime, Matt will restore the
> historical France Chapter mailing list for use until our mailman migration
> which is planned for March 22nd.
> In the meantime, please work with Dawn to get a new chapter created. Just
> recently we updated our policy and now name new chapters for the cities or
> metropolitan areas where they most commonly meet. Newer members were
> confused with a country-wide chapter naming strategy when there might be
> leaders interested in starting chapters in say Lyon, Nice, and Paris.
> Have a great week.
> --------------------------------------------------
> Mike McCamon
> Interim Executive Director, OWASP
> o +1.781.876.6253 | m: +1.408.430.2767
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:39 AM Mike McCamon <
> mike.mccamon at owaspfoundation.org> wrote:
>> Mr. Gioria,
>> I am the new Interim Executive Director of OWASP. The Foundation has
>> standards to define "chapter activity" and Dawn is charged with
>> administering those standards.
>> Firstly, I must say it is unacceptable for you to make such a personal
>> attack on a staff member or any other person in the OWASP community. Please
>> maintain a level of professional decorum and help us focus on creating a
>> thriving community. You may be frustrated, but personal attacks on a
>> person's character and/or harsh sarcasm will not be tolerated.
>> Next, I would prefer in the future you reach out to me for resolution on
>> matters like this rather than reaching out to the entire Board. Their role
>> is of close oversight and strategic direction so while we need to "get this
>> right," I'm not sure you've taken the shortest path to resolution. Like
>> you, they are quite busy with their day jobs in addition to the volunteer
>> service they donate to OWASP.
>> Some chapter leaders do not understand our rationale for requiring event
>> plans and history be published on our website. It is quite simple. Each
>> year the Foundation hosts over six million visitors to our website (over
>> 160,000 from France alone) and it's our aim to connect those visitors with
>> our network of chapters and local meetings. Without an accurate web page on
>> our site, we cannot introduce your chapter to prospective members and
>> therefore under-serve the French market. We are continuously auditing our
>> 220 chapters and when we find a long history of no meetings, we assume the
>> chapter has fallen inactive.
>> We are working to make our Chapter Leader guidelines and expectations
>> more clear and better communicated in the future. We are also retooling
>> some of our other chapter processes as well.
>> How would you suggest we update our policies to monitor chapter activity
>> for our scale? I would love to learn. Maybe checking each chapter's web
>> page isn't the right plan but I'm unsure what might work better given the
>> scope of the task.
>> It is my sincere desire that myself, staff, and the Board does everything
>> in our power to enable local advocates to share the mission of OWASP in
>> their community while also balancing the need to run a professionally
>> managed Foundation.  Thank you for your commitment to our mission.
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> Mike McCamon
>> Interim Executive Director, OWASP
>> o +1.781.876.6253 | m: +1.408.430.2767
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: sebastien gioria <seb at gioria.org>
>> Date: Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: France Chapter
>> To: Dawn Aitken <dawn.aitken at owasp.org>, owasp-board at lists.owasp.org <
>> owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>> Dawn
>> After your splendid solution to drop off the page, you drop the list with
>> our members..clap clap clap.
>> You're really impressionnated to do your jobs without any really brain.
>> We have a meeting in 1 month who need to be announce and no solution to
>> sent to the French members without the owasp_france Twitter....clap clap
>> clap.
>> So, I back your drop of the web site. But can't do anything for the list.
>> If this is not possible I consider you irresponsible to manage the owasp
>> community. Anyway if this need to be goes to a flame war to the board you
>> could consider what you want, but before doing stupid things, be careful of
>> the damage that this will do to OWASP in France.
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