[Owasp-board] Project Summit timing

Seba seba at owasp.org
Thu Nov 16 06:40:05 UTC 2017


Yes, unfortunately the 2 events are close to each other.

We came into this situation as we could not hold our April option (= we got
no support from the board).
The next available slot at the venue was the first week of June 2018.

The OWASP Summit cannot be moved anymore.
The contract is now signed by a sponsor, and we started selling tickets
this week (payments go directly into the OWASP Europe bank accounts).

For 2019 we will try to prevent this from happening.



On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 4:35 AM Andrew van der Stock <vanderaj at owasp.org>

> Hi Board,
> It's come to my attention that the Project Summit is likely to clash in
> terms of dates with AppSec EU.
> June 4th - 8th
> https://owaspsummit.org/website/
> June 17th-21th (9 days later)
> http://2018.appsec.eu/
> As much as I want to support all events, particularly those that support
> projects, the timing of this couldn't be worse.
> We were already struggling with the location of AppSec EU next year (which
> I hope will be offset by a large local attendance), but if there's an event
> two weeks *before* one of our two global events, this is going to be a bit
> of a financial disaster for us if the events have the same attendees.
> The Project Summit, by design, is unlikely to make a profit, but even if
> it did, it's a regional event thus 90% of any profit would go to the
> event's organizers, which is only proper as we're providing no staff
> support and no financial support.
> AppSec EU is on the other hand, a global event which basically funds about
> 1/3rd of our annual budget.
> Even if we let this go for 2018, this will be a problem in coming years if
> there continues to be conflicts with scheduling. If we can't move the
> project summit for 2018 (and as we didn't sign any contracts, we possibly
> can't), this probably means redundancies for staff and scaling back funding
> mission and operations during 2019 depending on the success of AppSec EU
> and USA next year. If both are bumper events (unlikely at this stage), we
> should be okay. I can't see both being okay, especially if there's another
> event that's a lot cheaper / easier to get to than AppSec EU.
> Basically, I need for us to discuss scheduling. I don't want to stop
> events, but they need to be scheduled with sensitivity to allow OWASP to
> grow. For example, AppSec Cali is 8-10 months away from AppSec USA, and
> AppSec AU was ~1.5 months between AppSec EU/USA.
> Properly scheduled regional events build OWASP. This scheduling snafu has
> the potential to scale back OWASP, and potentially damage both events.
> thanks,
> Andrew
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