[Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to Handle ED Search Process

Matt Konda matt.konda at owasp.org
Thu Jun 29 17:19:21 UTC 2017


Josh,

Sorry I wasn't clear.

Sometimes recruiters are flexible about payment schedules.  It would just
mean that we pay them over more months less $ per month.

The benefit is just a flatter cashflow.  Not something I would fight for,
but no reason not to ask.

Matt

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:

> I see three suggestions provided by Matt:
>
> 1) Go with the higher fee for the longer guarantee. (33% for 12 months)
> 2) See if Scion is willing to negotiate on payment timelines.
> 3) We write in an exclusion and exception for any candidates that are
> already contacting us or that Virtual provides before July 1.
>
> 1 and 3 are fairly straightforward and I can ask for them.  2 is vague.
> Can you please provide more detail on this suggestion so that I can
> adequately relay it to Scion?  Thank you.
>
> ~josh
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Matts suggested contract exclusions are a good idea.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 5:23 PM Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you all for your votes.  Tobias, feel free to submit yours for the
>>> record whenever you get around to this thread, but with 4 votes in favor
>>> the motion passes.  Matt Tesauro, can you please make sure that the Board
>>> voting record is updated with this information:
>>>
>>> *MOTION: The Board will allocate up to $45k to hire Scion Executive
>>> Search to conduct the search, evaluation, and hiring process for the new
>>> OWASP Executive Director.*
>>>
>>> Josh - Yes
>>> Michael - Yes
>>> Tom - Yes
>>> Matt - Yes
>>> Andrew - No
>>> Martin (Shadow Vote?) - No
>>> Tobias -
>>>
>>> I will work to get the proper paperwork completed and initial deposit
>>> made to get Scion moving on the search.  Thank you.
>>>
>>> ~josh
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Matt Konda <matt.konda at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I vote yes to using Scion.  I would suggest the higher fee for the
>>>> longer guarantee. (33% for 12 months)  I would also suggest that we see if
>>>> Scion is willing to negotiate on payment timelines.
>>>>
>>>> All that being said, I would further suggest that we write in an
>>>> exclusion and exception for any candidates that are already contacting us
>>>> or that Virtual provides before July 1.  If needed, we should expedite
>>>> review for those candidates to try to clear the air for Scion to move
>>>> forward in July.
>>>>
>>>> I think we have struggled with this long enough and would best serve
>>>> the community and staff by leveraging 3rd party help to find a strong
>>>> independently verified ED.  I find the proposal and track record compelling.
>>>>
>>>> I also want to go on record in appreciation of the work Virtual is
>>>> doing and will continue doing to support OWASP both from a finance and
>>>> operations perspective.  In considering an alternative it is not a
>>>> reflection on the Virtual team's efforts or commitments but an effort to
>>>> diversify our support network and close a gap that has been present too
>>>> long.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, Josh, for your efforts here.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *MOTION: The Board will allocate up to $45k to hire Scion Executive
>>>>> Search to conduct the search, evaluation, and hiring process for the new
>>>>> OWASP Executive Director.*
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh - Yes
>>>>> Michael - Yes
>>>>> Tom - Yes
>>>>> Andrew - No
>>>>> Martin (Shadow Vote?) - No
>>>>> Tobias -
>>>>> Matt -
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to be clear here, I do not have time to "exhaust other options"
>>>>> as Andrew and Martin have alluded to being their preference.  Yes, there
>>>>> are certainly other companies that can conduct the search for us.  Perhaps
>>>>> even some that can do it for cheaper, albeit without the focus and
>>>>> expertise in non-profit executive searches that Scion has.  That said, it
>>>>> is blaringly clear that nobody, including our Board and staff, has the time
>>>>> to invest in vetting out all of our options.  With the departure of Kate
>>>>> and Alison, unfortunately, we are running about as thin as we can possibly
>>>>> afford to be here.  We have two outstanding votes, but I can tell you that
>>>>> if the Board votes no on this, then someone else will need to take point
>>>>> from here as I don't have the time to do as Andrew and Martin have
>>>>> indicated they would like to see.  We need to make traction on this and I
>>>>> don't see it happening to the degree that we need without some form out
>>>>> third-party assistance.  It is a lot of money, but this is the single most
>>>>> important hiring decision that the Board has, and with one failed
>>>>> recruitment effort under our belts, it is clear that we need to do
>>>>> something different.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:16 PM, <martin.knobloch at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my understanding,  the vote is about the motion to allocate 45k to
>>>>>> hire Scion Executive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On that, my vote is no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> -martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 27, 2017, Michael Coates wrote:
>>>>>> > Martin,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > From your comments I want to double check there's clarity on this
>>>>>> topic.
>>>>>> > The vote is to have an outsourced firm take us down the process to
>>>>>> > interview and select an ED from a group of qualified applicants
>>>>>> (and anyone
>>>>>> > who submits candidancy)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > To your comment:
>>>>>> > "- the position of ED is important for OWASP and better to right
>>>>>> person for
>>>>>> > the job, rather than hurry to get this done quickly "
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The "hurry" is only to select our vendor who will be coordinating
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > candidate process and reaching out to potential candidates. Right
>>>>>> now we
>>>>>> > are in a holding pattern and making no progress.
>>>>>> > My question for you is, if this is not the direction you like, what
>>>>>> > approach do you want to take?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Michael Coates | @_mwc <https://twitter.com/intent/us
>>>>>> er?screen_name=_mwc>
>>>>>> > OWASP Global Board
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Martin Knobloch <
>>>>>> martin.knobloch at owasp.org
>>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Hi Josh, et all,
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > I vote no.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Before spending 45K, we should have a better look into competitive
>>>>>> > > options.
>>>>>> > > Next, I would like to see to and temporary ED to be hired for the
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> > > being:
>>>>>> > > - we need an ED, but want to have a good process to find the right
>>>>>> > > candidate
>>>>>> > > - the position of ED is important for OWASP and better to right
>>>>>> person for
>>>>>> > > the job, rather than hurry to get this done quickly
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Regards,
>>>>>> > > -martin
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > P.S.: Required board member documents have been signed and
>>>>>> returned, full
>>>>>> > > vote?!
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:08 PM, Josh Sokol <
>>>>>> josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >> OWASP Board,
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> There's been some discussion in the other thread regarding the
>>>>>> proposal
>>>>>> > >> from Scion.  I am including the proposal as it contains answers
>>>>>> to many of
>>>>>> > >> the questions that have been asked.  The only argument that I've
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> > >> heard against this is monetary and I truly feel like we
>>>>>> shouldn't let that
>>>>>> > >> stand in the way of hiring the best ED for the Foundation.
>>>>>> Given no
>>>>>> > >> internal expertise in these matters, it is my recommendation
>>>>>> that the Board
>>>>>> > >> move forward with the proposal from Scion.  To that end, I have
>>>>>> a question
>>>>>> > >> and a formal motion.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Question: Would we like a six-month or twelve-month placement
>>>>>> guarantee
>>>>>> > >> on the hire?  The difference is an additional 3% of the annual
>>>>>> salary.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> *MOTION: The Board will allocate up to $45k to hire Scion
>>>>>> Executive
>>>>>> > >> Search to conduct the search, evaluation, and hiring process for
>>>>>> the new
>>>>>> > >> OWASP Executive Director.*
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> This is based on the high-range salary estimate of $135k and 33%
>>>>>> number
>>>>>> > >> for the 12-month placement.  This would be billed 1/3rd upon the
>>>>>> signing of
>>>>>> > >> the contract, 1/3rd 60 days later, and 1/3rd on the new ED's
>>>>>> start date.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> For the record, our ED recruitment process is stalled until we
>>>>>> either
>>>>>> > >> approve or reject this motion.
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> ~josh
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> ​
>>>>>> > >>  Scion Executive Search Proposal - Open Web Appl...
>>>>>> > >> <https://drive.google.com/a/owasp.org/file/d/0Bw1W2qFZ-xDGeW
>>>>>> l6WUNIdlk3b3hSM0lvUmxKZjlBREFTZnlV/view?usp=drive_web>
>>>>>> > >> ​
>>>>>> > >>
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