[Owasp-board] FW: MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to Handle ED Search Process

Tom Brennan tomb at owasp.org
Tue Jun 27 12:41:08 UTC 2017


Leaders, Has anyone seen or heard from

Tobias
Matt
Andrew
Martin

@Josh staff has a roledex of peoples phone numbers if you want to reach out
the old fashion way.


On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:27 AM Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:

> Board,
>
> This motion was made 11 days ago.  It was seconded by Michael 7 days ago.
> Currently, I am unable to progress with this until a decision is made and
> I've been contacted by a number of people who are interested.  We've also
> now lost interest from one perspective candidate due to how long this
> process has taken.  I need a yes or a no from each of you.
>
> *MOTION: The Board will allocate up to $45k to hire Scion Executive Search
> to conduct the search, evaluation, and hiring process for the new OWASP
> Executive Director.*
>
> Josh - Yes
> Michael -
> Tobias -
> Matt -
> Tom - Yes
> Andrew -
> Martin (Shadow Vote?) -
>
> ~josh
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Board,
>>
>> I've had another two inquiries about what is going on with this
>> position.  Again, I am unable to make progress here until the Board
>> approves the direction.  This cannot wait until the next Board meeting so I
>> have requested a vote via email.
>>
>> *MOTION: The Board will allocate up to $45k to hire Scion Executive
>> Search to conduct the search, evaluation, and hiring process for the new
>> OWASP Executive Director.*
>>
>> Josh - Yes
>> Michael -
>> Tobias -
>> Matt -
>> Tom - Yes
>> Andrew -
>> Martin (Shadow Vote?) -
>>
>> ~josh
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning everyone,  I am forwarding Ann’s response to Josh’s
>>> questions below regarding the Virtual proposal.  Take care
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As clarification of the Virtual ED recruitment proposal, as per the
>>> below statement on the proposal, we will do an active search and not just
>>> review submitted resumes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “outreach to passive candidates, US & global”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The first section of the following statement from Josh is accurate,
>>> SCION  can leverage an existing global network of candidates that we don’t
>>> have, that is where we would partner with our global recruitment group.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> leveraging an existing global network of highly qualified candidates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, Miriam would be actively seeking candidates on OWASP’s behalf.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>>
>>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>>
>>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>>
>>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>>
>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: cid:image001.png at 01CE7100.10DF2040]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org
>>> [mailto:owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Josh Sokol
>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2017 12:38 PM
>>> *To:* OWASP Board List (owasp-board at lists.owasp.org) <
>>> owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-board] FW: MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive
>>> Search to Handle ED Search Process
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Board,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if you've had a chance to review the proposal from Virtual
>>> yet, but it is fundamentally different than the Scion proposal in several
>>> ways.  Virtual's proposal is for posting to the job board, tracking of
>>> applicants, review and communication with candidates, scheduling of
>>> interviews and taking notes/scoring, and preparing the offer.  Scion's
>>> package is all-inclusive and they are leveraging an existing global network
>>> of highly qualified candidates.  They are a recruiter actively seeking out
>>> candidates on our behalf versus Virtual's proposal to post a job and
>>> waiting for qualified candidates to come to us.  In order to add the
>>> recruitment function, it would add approximately $29k-34k, in addition to
>>> the $6k for the initial services, not to mention that it would be
>>> effectively starting the search again.  Another major difference is that
>>> Virtual is not offering any placement guarantee.  Even at a 30% commission
>>> (I'm estimating at $40k), Scion would still offer us a 6 months placement
>>> guarantee.  I have no skin in the game with either of these companies, but
>>> my gut says that if OWASP truly wants a global search for the best ED
>>> available, then Scion is the way to go.  If we are simply looking for
>>> someone to manage the process for us, then Virtual would be the better
>>> option.  My gut is to go with Scion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have made a formal motion.  Michael seconded it on June 20th and I
>>> haven't seen any discussion from the other Board members.  This process is
>>> stalled and we have candidates waiting on a decision from the Board.
>>> Please vote.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh - Yes
>>>
>>> Michael -
>>>
>>> Tobias -
>>>
>>> Matt -
>>>
>>> Tom -
>>>
>>> Andrew -
>>>
>>> Martin (Shadow Vote?) -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Andrew van der Stock <
>>> vanderaj at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Tom, much appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone, Please find the attached proposal from the Virtual HR
>>> team, with regard to the ED search, for your review,  as was requested.  I
>>> am sending this along as our VP of HR Ann Geary does not have access to the
>>> Board list for OWASP.  If you have any questions please do not hesitate to
>>> let us know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Take care and thank you for allowing us to present this proposal to
>>> assist OWASP in its ED search as we have in past searches.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>>
>>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>>
>>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>>
>>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>>
>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: cid:image001.png at 01CE7100.10DF2040]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ann Geary
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:36 PM
>>> *To:* Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>; Josh Sokol <
>>> josh.sokol at owasp.org>; Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
>>> *Cc:* OWASP Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>; Miriam Macedo <
>>> mmacedo at virtualmgmt.com>
>>> *Subject:* RE: [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to
>>> Handle ED Search Process
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attached is a draft of the OWASP recruitment proposal.  I’ve copied
>>> Miriam Macedo, Virtual’s HR Recruitment Manager who has conducted numerous
>>> global searches, including ED recruitment efforts. Miriam would do a great
>>> job, but we want to be realistic and acknowledge that if there is a need
>>> for a full blown global search, we would partner with a group we have
>>> utilized for more “niche” searches. Our contact  has more expertise and
>>> connections in the global arena. Our  proposal is as follows:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Attached standard search fee is in the range of $6,000
>>>    - If no viable candidate is identified in an agreed upon timeframe,
>>>    we would partner with our global search firm contact in the UK  with whom
>>>    we’ve negotiated a 15-25%  fee of base salary & negotiated bonus.  would
>>>    add approx. $29,000 - $34,000, dependent on salary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We do not mark up their fee structure:
>>>
>>> *Fee Structure; Based upon 1st years agreed salary, plus any
>>> agreed/built in bonuses.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Remuneration (usd$)               % of Remuneration Paid*
>>>
>>> *0          - 100,000                     25%*
>>>
>>> *100,001 – 125,000                   20% *
>>>
>>> *125,001 -  150,000                      18% (subject to min fee
>>> $25,000)*
>>>
>>> *150,001 +                                    15% (subject to min fee
>>> $27,500)*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *4.         REFUND GUARANTEES*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *4.1       In order to qualify for the following guarantees, the Client
>>> must pay the Company’s fee within 15 days of the date of invoice and must
>>> notify the Company in writing of the termination of the Engagement within 7
>>> days of its termination. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *4.2       Where the Candidate leaves during the first 8 weeks of the
>>> Engagement, a pro-rated refund of the introduction fee shall be paid to the
>>> Client in accordance with the scale set out below, subject to the
>>> conditions in clause 4. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Week in which the Candidate leaves   % of the introduction fee refunded*
>>>
>>> *
>>> 1                                                                90%*
>>>
>>> *
>>> 2                                                                80%*
>>>
>>> *
>>> 3                                                                70%       *
>>>
>>> *
>>> 4                                                                60%*
>>>
>>> *
>>> 5                                                                50%*
>>>
>>> *6*
>>> *40%*
>>>
>>> *7*
>>> *30%*
>>>
>>> *8*
>>> *20%*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *There will be no refund where the Candidate leaves during or after the
>>> 8th week of the Engagement. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *4.3       If, after an offer of Engagement has been made to the
>>> Candidate, the Client decides for any reason to withdraw it, the Client
>>> shall be liable to pay the Company. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *10% of the Remuneration where the annual Remuneration.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With our competitive fee, Virtual does not offer any placement
>>> guarantee; our fee is based on work produced, and not a % of candidate
>>> salary.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A few points of note:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    - If the finalist is not in the US, and you want to add him/her to
>>>    payroll, we may need to negotiate a contract for services with our global
>>>    HR partner; we can’t provide fees until we confirm the location
>>>    - If the finalist is in the US, an OWASP staff member needs to
>>>    manage the onboarding with Insperity
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any questions regarding the proposal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ann
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ann O’Connor Geary |   Vice President, Human Resources | Virtual, Inc.
>>>
>>> D: +1.781.876.6273 <(781)%20876-6273>  |  M: +1.781.606.1350
>>> <(781)%20606-1350>
>>>
>>> *ageary at virtualmgmt.com <ageary at virtualmgmt.com>*  blog.virtualmgmt.com
>>>
>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: cid:image001.png at 01CF1218.1E0F0690]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Tom Pappas
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 20, 2017 4:58 PM
>>> *To:* Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>; Kate Hartmann <
>>> kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
>>> *Cc:* OWASP Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>; Ann Geary <
>>> ageary at virtualmgmt.com>
>>> *Subject:* RE: [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to
>>> Handle ED Search Process
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Josh,  I have just received the Virtual HR search proposal and
>>> will be reviewing so it can be sent to you all tomorrow. Wanted to keep
>>> everyone updated.  Take care
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>>
>>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>>
>>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>>
>>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>>
>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: cid:image001.png at 01CE7100.10DF2040]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Sokol [mailto:josh.sokol at owasp.org <josh.sokol at owasp.org>]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 20, 2017 4:23 PM
>>> *To:* Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
>>> *Cc:* Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>; OWASP Board List <
>>> owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to
>>> Handle ED Search Process
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OWASP Board Members,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am receiving emails from interested parties, but am unsure as to how
>>> you want to move the ball forward.  Without a second on my motion, I'm
>>> afraid that our direction is simply to "do it ourselves" again, which none
>>> of us have the time for and we had a very narrow reach last time.  I'm
>>> trying to drive this forward, but I cannot do so without your participation
>>> in the process.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~josh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, do any of those specialize in search for non-profits?  Can you
>>> please inquire with those what the fees would be for a retained search?
>>> That would at least give us a baseline to tell if Scion's fees are
>>> reasonable.  Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~josh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not familiar with executive search firms, however, a google search
>>> for "international executive search firms" provide this link with the top 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.topexecutivesearchfirms.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Overview
>>>
>>> *Top Executive Search Firms* exists as a resource to employers seeking
>>> to understand the complexities of the executive search/recruiting industry.
>>> Our research offers prospective employers an unbiased look at the top
>>> executive search firms by offering resources, opinions, and rankings as a
>>> guide to helping you choose the best firm to meet your executive search
>>> needs. This list will be updated each year based upon an algorithmic
>>> approach with includes public voting. We do not accept payment from
>>> executive search firms for inclusion on this list. We do accept advertising
>>> from industry partners, vendors, suppliers, and employers.
>>> Qualifications
>>>
>>> In order to qualify for the Top 20 Executive Search Firms list,
>>> organizations must be retained search firms, have multiple practice areas,
>>> have displayed recognized thought leadership, and must have completed
>>> signature searches for global brands in multiple geographies.
>>> Ranking Methodology
>>>
>>> The ranking order for the Top 20 Executive Search Firms list is derived
>>> algorithmically based upon a proprietary weighting of the following
>>> criteria: annual revenue, number of placements, number of ancillary
>>> services or practice areas, level of searches handled by average salary,
>>> completion ratio, average time to complete, stick rate, client satisfaction
>>> (testimonials/votes), social media presence, and executive thought
>>> leadership. Our algorithm also negatively weights adverse circumstances
>>> (e.g. candidate exited based upon discovery which the search firm should
>>> have filtered, client litigation, poaching, etc.).
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Virtual has not presented us with any similar proposals for searching
>>> for and hiring an ED.  The service we used them for was a Virtual ED
>>> server, and eventually we hired Paul from them.  If they have a global
>>> search service, then that option has not been presented to us yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think anyone on the Board is familiar with this company.  I was
>>> the only Board member who attended the initial meeting with them, but
>>> Claudia and Dawn attended as well.  The entire meeting was recorded and
>>> posted earlier, but I don't think anyone else has listened to it, or even
>>> read through their proposal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a global search.  I haven't seen any other companies brought to
>>> us.  Did you have a recommendation for someone else to look into?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~josh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Owasp <kate.hartmann at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Using a third party is a good idea, but I'd strongly recommend
>>> interviewing at least one other firm. This is a large spend and a decision
>>> that impacts the future direction of OWASP!  Why is there no consideration
>>> to use the firm that presented Paul?  Is everyone on the board familiar
>>> with this company?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Impact aside, would the board be OK with operations committing to a $45k
>>> spend without at least two additional options?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I might have missed it, but I didn't see anything in scion's Q&A about
>>> searching internationally for candidates. Will they search globally, or is
>>> it just a US search?
>>>
>>> Kate Hartmann
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Josh thank you for the clarification.  Take care
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>>
>>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>>
>>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>>
>>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>>
>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <image001.png>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Sokol [mailto:josh.sokol at owasp.org <josh.sokol at owasp.org>]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 16, 2017 4:48 PM
>>> *To:* Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>
>>> *Cc:* OWASP Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to
>>> Handle ED Search Process
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That is correct.  We would be paying them to effectively run the search
>>> and hire process for us.  I would encourage all candidates to go through
>>> that process.
>>>
>>>
>>> ~josh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Josh, so I have a couple of questions with regard to the note
>>> below.  Based on the billing it seems that Scion is handling the entire
>>> process and that any and all candidates should go through them, as I have
>>> just received the resume from the individual that we had identified and
>>> does this mean that Matt T either has to interview with Scion or is out of
>>> the running.  Just want to get a bit of clarity as to what the process is
>>> for candidates that Scion does not identify in their search.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Take care
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>>
>>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>>
>>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>>
>>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>>
>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <image001.png>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org
>>> [mailto:owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Josh Sokol
>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 16, 2017 4:08 PM
>>> *To:* OWASP Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>>> *Subject:* [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to
>>> Handle ED Search Process
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OWASP Board,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There's been some discussion in the other thread regarding the proposal
>>> from Scion.  I am including the proposal as it contains answers to many of
>>> the questions that have been asked.  The only argument that I've really
>>> heard against this is monetary and I truly feel like we shouldn't let that
>>> stand in the way of hiring the best ED for the Foundation.  Given no
>>> internal expertise in these matters, it is my recommendation that the Board
>>> move forward with the proposal from Scion.  To that end, I have a question
>>> and a formal motion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Question: Would we like a six-month or twelve-month placement guarantee
>>> on the hire?  The difference is an additional 3% of the annual salary.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *MOTION: The Board will allocate up to $45k to hire Scion Executive
>>> Search to conduct the search, evaluation, and hiring process for the new
>>> OWASP Executive Director.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is based on the high-range salary estimate of $135k and 33% number
>>> for the 12-month placement.  This would be billed 1/3rd upon the signing of
>>> the contract, 1/3rd 60 days later, and 1/3rd on the new ED's start date.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For the record, our ED recruitment process is stalled until we either
>>> approve or reject this motion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~josh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>> *<image002.jpg> Scion Executive Search Proposal - Open Web Appl...
>>> <https://drive.google.com/a/owasp.org/file/d/0Bw1W2qFZ-xDGeWl6WUNIdlk3b3hSM0lvUmxKZjlBREFTZnlV/view?usp=drive_web>*
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kate Hartmann
>>>
>>> kate.hartmann at owasp.org
>>>
>>> +1 301-275-9403 <(301)%20275-9403>
>>>
>>> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>>>
>>>
>>>
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