[Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to Handle ED Search Process

Andrew van der Stock vanderaj at owasp.org
Mon Jun 19 14:26:47 UTC 2017


Hi Tom,

Any update on this? I certainly would like to move the discussion along if
Virtual can throw their hat in the ring.

thanks,
Andrew

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com> wrote:

> One last item, based on your note below I will connect with our HR dept on
> Monday with regard to your note that Virtual has not submitted a search
> proposal now that you have clarified the request.  Take care
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ------------------------------
> From: Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
> Sent: ‎6/‎17/‎2017 10:11 PM
> To: Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
> Cc: Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>; OWASP Board List
> <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to
> Handle ED Search Process
>
> Virtual has not presented us with any similar proposals for searching for
> and hiring an ED.  The service we used them for was a Virtual ED server,
> and eventually we hired Paul from them.  If they have a global search
> service, then that option has not been presented to us yet.
>
> I don't think anyone on the Board is familiar with this company.  I was
> the only Board member who attended the initial meeting with them, but
> Claudia and Dawn attended as well.  The entire meeting was recorded and
> posted earlier, but I don't think anyone else has listened to it, or even
> read through their proposal.
>
> This is a global search.  I haven't seen any other companies brought to
> us.  Did you have a recommendation for someone else to look into?
>
> ~josh
>
> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Owasp <kate.hartmann at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Using a third party is a good idea, but I'd strongly recommend
>> interviewing at least one other firm. This is a large spend and a decision
>> that impacts the future direction of OWASP!  Why is there no consideration
>> to use the firm that presented Paul?  Is everyone on the board familiar
>> with this company?
>>
>> Impact aside, would the board be OK with operations committing to a $45k
>> spend without at least two additional options?
>>
>> I might have missed it, but I didn't see anything in scion's Q&A about
>> searching internationally for candidates. Will they search globally, or is
>> it just a US search?
>>
>> Kate Hartmann
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Josh thank you for the clarification.  Take care
>>
>>
>>
>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>
>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>
>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>
>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>
>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>
>>
>>
>> <image001.png>
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>>
>> *From:* Josh Sokol [mailto:josh.sokol at owasp.org <josh.sokol at owasp.org>]
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 16, 2017 4:48 PM
>> *To:* Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>
>> *Cc:* OWASP Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to
>> Handle ED Search Process
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>>
>>
>> That is correct.  We would be paying them to effectively run the search
>> and hire process for us.  I would encourage all candidates to go through
>> that process.
>>
>>
>> ~josh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Josh, so I have a couple of questions with regard to the note
>> below.  Based on the billing it seems that Scion is handling the entire
>> process and that any and all candidates should go through them, as I have
>> just received the resume from the individual that we had identified and
>> does this mean that Matt T either has to interview with Scion or is out of
>> the running.  Just want to get a bit of clarity as to what the process is
>> for candidates that Scion does not identify in their search.
>>
>>
>>
>> Take care
>>
>>
>>
>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>
>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>
>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>
>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>
>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>
>>
>>
>> <image001.png>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org
>> [mailto:owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Josh Sokol
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 16, 2017 4:08 PM
>> *To:* OWASP Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>> *Subject:* [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to
>> Handle ED Search Process
>>
>>
>>
>> OWASP Board,
>>
>>
>>
>> There's been some discussion in the other thread regarding the proposal
>> from Scion.  I am including the proposal as it contains answers to many of
>> the questions that have been asked.  The only argument that I've really
>> heard against this is monetary and I truly feel like we shouldn't let that
>> stand in the way of hiring the best ED for the Foundation.  Given no
>> internal expertise in these matters, it is my recommendation that the Board
>> move forward with the proposal from Scion.  To that end, I have a question
>> and a formal motion.
>>
>>
>>
>> Question: Would we like a six-month or twelve-month placement guarantee
>> on the hire?  The difference is an additional 3% of the annual salary.
>>
>>
>>
>> *MOTION: The Board will allocate up to $45k to hire Scion Executive
>> Search to conduct the search, evaluation, and hiring process for the new
>> OWASP Executive Director.*
>>
>>
>>
>> This is based on the high-range salary estimate of $135k and 33% number
>> for the 12-month placement.  This would be billed 1/3rd upon the signing of
>> the contract, 1/3rd 60 days later, and 1/3rd on the new ED's start date.
>>
>>
>>
>> For the record, our ED recruitment process is stalled until we either
>> approve or reject this motion.
>>
>>
>>
>> ~josh
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>> *<image002.jpg> Scion Executive Search Proposal - Open Web Appl...
>> <https://drive.google.com/a/owasp.org/file/d/0Bw1W2qFZ-xDGeWl6WUNIdlk3b3hSM0lvUmxKZjlBREFTZnlV/view?usp=drive_web>*
>>
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