[Owasp-board] SCION Executive Search

Tom Pappas tpappas at virtualmgmt.com
Tue Jun 13 14:56:33 UTC 2017

Hello Josh,  so I can answer this, the ED is in the budget for 2017 starting in July for the 2nd half of the year as the Feb board meeting it was moved to go with the O&A comm until then.  As for your note regarding Virtual below, after the Board call last week and the portion of the Exec session that I attended it seemed the board was weighing its options.  Please let us know if you have made a decision and we can move forward.  Take care, let us know if you have any questions.  Take care

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From: owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org [mailto:owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Josh Sokol
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:47 AM
To: Martin Knobloch <martin.knobloch at owasp.org>
Cc: OWASP Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] SCION Executive Search

To Martin's point...did we already allocate the money for the first half of the year for the ED role?  Regarding Alison, I believe we agreed in the last Board meeting to move forward with the virtual offering, at least for the time being.


On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:42 AM, Martin Knobloch <martin.knobloch at owasp.org<mailto:martin.knobloch at owasp.org>> wrote:
I understand Andrew's reasoning, but not concur 100% with your statement.
The chance we find a ED inside the next 6 month is limited due to election process and all. Therefore, the salary will be only partial for this year, not the full annual salary.
Considering we would find an ED (most optimistically) in 3 month (she/he would start 1st of October), only 1/4th of the annual salary is applicable.
As previously discussed, it is more likely the process of finding and hiring and ED will take more likely half an year and therefore we should still consider hiring a temporary ED.
Not to find a replacement for Kate is not really an option, as this will cause a lot of operational stuff not to be picked-up. That said, is there an overview of responsibilities and tasks for each of the staff member?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:25 AM, Andrew van der Stock <vanderaj at owasp.org<mailto:vanderaj at owasp.org>> wrote:
Basically we need to decide if we are going to replace both Kate and Alison. If not, then you have my blessing to go forward as Treasurer but this does mean no Kate replacement this financial year. I am assuming we will outsource Alison's role to Virtual.

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From: Josh Sokol
Sent: Tuesday, 13 June 2017 11:03
To: Matt Konda
Cc: OWASP Board List
Subject: Re: [Owasp-board] SCION Executive Search

Attached is the proposal from Scion Executive Search.  Based on their estimate of $115k-$135k salary given similar positions, it sounds like their fee would range from about $34,500 to $44,500, depending on whether we want a 6 or 12 month placement guarantee.  That's all expenses included.

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On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org<mailto:josh.sokol at owasp.org>> wrote:

Attached is the recording from the meeting with SCION Executive Search (https://scionexecutivesearch.com/).  A big thanks to Claudia and Dawn who joined me as well.  Here are some of the notes I took:

  *   Work with a lot of membership based organization
  *   Been around for ~12 years
  *   Worked with organizations of many sizes
  *   People from SCION are all involved with non-profits
  *   Main company is SCION Staffing, which does tech and corporate staffing at the executive level
  *   Isaac has a legal degree
  *   Has led over 500 searches
  *   Services:

     *   Retained executive searches

        *   Meetings to make sure description is good and set clear expectations
        *   Go out through network to create pool
        *   Evaluate individuals
        *   Assist in showing top candidates and why

Job Description
Great start
Get in more strategy and more goals
Missing more global things

Would “passionately” be interested in helping us lead this search.
Know we could find an exceptional ED
Have done a lot of this
Can have hundreds of candidates for a job like this
Only thing not included is criminal background check fee (billed exact cost - few hundred dollars max)
Costs for candidate travel, if required
Have their own resume platform (Bullhorn)
Average salary is between $115k-135k for a similar position
Run public recruitment for 2-3 months.  Prefer 3 months and then submit talent back.  Do expedite searches for 2 months publicly.  Some conversations needed beforehand (5-7 of most influential people).
Lower scale guarantee is 6 months, upper is 1 year
Methods: Check website for 10-step process.

I, personally, came away with a good feeling about them and their ability to lead this search on our behalf.  Given that we all have other commitments, I think that having a partner like this to drive our search would be well worth the money.  They will have a formal proposal out to me by the end of the day.


On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org<mailto:josh.sokol at owasp.org>> wrote:
This is 3 PM CST, btw.  Not EST.


On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Matt Konda <matt.konda at owasp.org<mailto:matt.konda at owasp.org>> wrote:
Thanks, Josh.

Matt Konda

On Jun 12, 2017, at 7:40 AM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org<mailto:josh.sokol at owasp.org>> wrote:
I went ahead and just scheduled a GoToMeeting for it anyway.  Feel free to join me:

SCION Executive Search
Jun 12, 2017 at 3:00 pm - 4:00 pm EDT
Please visit & join the meeting space from your computer, tablet, or smartphone.

You can also dial in using your phone.
United States (toll-free): 1 877 309 2073<tel:(877)%20309-2073>
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On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org<mailto:josh.sokol at owasp.org>> wrote:

The company that I mentioned, SCION Executive Search (https://scionexecutivesearch.com/) that specializes in ED/CEO searches for non-profit corporations responded back.  I am setting up a call with them at 3 PM CST today to review.  Right now, they are planning on calling me directly, but I would be happy to set up a GoToMeeting if others would be interested in joining.  It sounds like fees for ED searches led by them are 30% to 33% of the first years annual salary, depending on the guarantee level we require.


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