[Owasp-board] REMINDER _ Re: URGENT CONTRACT FOR OWASP SUMMIT 2017 - Re: Proposal of Costs: Woburn Forest - Owasp - 12.06.2017

johanna curiel curiel johanna.curiel at owasp.org
Mon Jan 23 12:34:30 UTC 2017


@Matt
Clearly, the board is not needed in this action. Everything has been worked
out according the rules, with Laura. This event was long ago rebranded as a
full OWASP Summit event and therefore, the following paperwork can be
signed right?

Cheers

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Seba <seba at owasp.org> wrote:

> hi Andrew,
>
> We did not ask for the board intervention.
>
> The event is being worked on since October 2016.
> The rebranded event (together with the updated budget) was submitted and
> approved by Laura.
> The venue contract is reviewed and approved by Laura.
>
> We now just need it signed?
>
> I am copying my email of 5-Januari below (where all this was explained to
> Laura, Matt and Andrew).
>
> Thank you
> Seba
>
> <snip>
> Best wishes for 2017!
>
> We made some changes/decisions in the last couple of weeks.
>
> We rebranded our summit to be a "pure" OWASP projects summit - OWASP
> Summit 2017.
> It will take place at 12-19 June in Woburn Forest Centre Parcs (UK).
>
> We already have seed funds from chapters/projects (17.500 USD) and
> reserved 10 villas for the summit.
> We will start registrations & attract extra funding/sponsoring soon to get
> the rest of the funds to organize the summit.
>
> (more details will be provided to the board / leaders in the coming weeks).
>
> Can you for now:
> 1) remove the OWASP-DevSecCon-Summit as event
> 2) recognize the OWASP-Summit-2017 as submitted today in OCSM as summit
> (please confirm - I never got confirmation)
>
> We will forward the venue contract to you for review/signature in the
> coming days.
> </snip>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 2:08 AM Andrew van der Stock <vanderaj at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
> Please continue to work with Laura, our events manager. Asking for Board
> intervention will just slow you down. We need all events to be properly
> planned and not trying to side-step processes so they can be sustainable
> and successful. One off events do not help long term.
>
> I think the Board is broadly supportive of new well planned events, so if
> the nature of the event has changed, let's make sure we are briefed on the
> new direction.
>
> This event's indicative costs are right up there with AppSec EU, the
> proposed AppSec Middle East (which is paused due to law / regulation
> changes), and AppSec Cali, and we have lead times of over 12 months for
> each of those events. We make allowances for them because of that. Please
> work with Laura. I cannot re-iterate this strongly enough.
>
> As this is a big expense, it needs to be budgetted for and OCMS + Laura is
> the right way to go here, so we can make sure everything is done and
> checked off and nothing is forgotten. Matt Konda and I will need to
> countersign once an approved budget is brought to us.
>
> thanks,
> Andrew
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:03 AM, johanna curiel curiel <
> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> That sounds great.
>
> Indeed  if the ticket includes hotel and catering is a very good price
> with an option to be shorter than the full 5 days
>
>
> On Sunday, January 22, 2017, Seba <seba at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> hi Johanna,
>
> the tickets are not too expensive, as they include catering & lodging for
> 5 days.
> 24h tickets are 1400 EUR covering the venue, accommodation (shared lodge),
> catering for 5 days 12-16 June 2017.
> there is also the option to participate based on day-tickets, 465 EUR
> covering the venue, catering during the day for 5 days, 12-16 June 2017.
>
> the venue was selected, based on location: near London and an
> international airport hub, Heathrow. for maximum reachability.
> at the same time the lay-out supports the "summit-style" villas where
> workshops can be done for several days.
> if you cannot free up 5 days in your agenda, we will offer the option to
> come for a smaller number of days.
>
> kind regards
>
> Seba
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:44 PM johanna curiel curiel <
> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Seba
>
> I think indeed that Josh has not evaluated the latest information
> regarding the change. Right now, as I understand it is an OWASP Summit and
> not DevSecOps as it was originally
>
> However a ticket of https://www.regonline.com/registration/Checkin.aspx?
> EventId=1942827 (24h tickets are 1400 EUR) is a quite expensive one.
>
> I understand that this is for a 5 day summit but what exactly do a ticket
> of EUR1400 cover? Is this including Hotel + Food?
>
> I personally cannot afford the ticket price nor be 5 days away for a
> summit.
> Most OWASP conferences cost 1/2 or a little over the half of the price
> and are 2 days.
>
> What about make it in another city in UK(London is expensive for a stay)
> and consider a shorter summit (2 up to 3 days instead of 5)?
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Johanna
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Seba <seba at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Josh,
>
> Please read the emails / links below.
> We decided in December to make this a "pure" owasp summit. There is no
> for-profit company involved.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Seba
>
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 at 21:19, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> This is not all about the money.  The ramifications of OWASP signing the
> contract is that we would be liable for the event of a for-profit company.
> This event was reviewed by the Board, using the information available to
> us, and we unanimously voted that the OWASP Foundation should not be
> supporting this event.  This should include chapter donations, signing
> contracts, and event registration.  The company that stands to profit from
> this event should be the one to sign the contracts and obtain funding for
> it.
>
> ~josh
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Seba <seba at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I think there is a misunderstanding: we do not ask seeding funds from the
> board.
>
> See down in the email thread:
> <snip>
> Information on the event is here:
> http://owaspsummit.org/
> and here:
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2017-January/017697.html
>
> all information (including the budget) was provided as part of the OCMS
> entry.
> budget link:
> https://github.com/OWASP/owasp-summit-2017/blob/master/
> Budget/owasp-summit-2017-budget%20v20170105.xlsx
> which was approved.
> Our event is listed here:
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_AppSec_Conference
>
> Regarding your funding question:
> We currently have 17,000 USD available in donations from the SAMM project
> and the London chapter (which easily covers the 30% downpayment)
> We are starting registrations this week (Kate has created the RegOnline
> page).
> </snip>
>
> The registratration link is here
> https://www.regonline.com/registration/Checkin.aspx?EventId=1942827 (24h
> tickets are 1400 EUR)
>
> Thanks for your swift review & signature of the venue contract (which was
> due yesterday)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Seba
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 6:23 PM Matt Konda <matt.konda at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> (+Board List)
>
> Seba,
>
> I'm confused.  If I sign this, isn't OWASP essentially agreeing to pay for
> the contract in the event all of your assumptions don't work out?
>
> I'm sorry, but I don't think that was the board's intent.  I've copied the
> board list so that people can weigh in.
>
> Matt
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 5:07 AM, Seba <seba at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> hi Laura, Matt,
>
> The deadline is today: can you please make sure to get the contract signed
> & delivered?
>
> thx!
>
> Seba
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Owasp-board mailing list
> Owasp-board at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-board
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Owasp-board mailing list
> Owasp-board at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-board
>
>
>
>
> --
> Johanna Curiel
> OWASP Volunteer
>
>
>
> --
> Johanna Curiel
> OWASP Volunteer
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Owasp-board mailing list
> Owasp-board at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-board
>
>
>


-- 
Johanna Curiel
OWASP Volunteer
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/attachments/20170123/72b8a273/attachment-0001.html>


More information about the Owasp-board mailing list