[Owasp-board] REQUEST BUDGET: for project leaders to assist OWASP summit London

Bev Corwin bev.corwin at owasp.org
Sat Feb 11 19:59:43 UTC 2017


Ok, I see, so you are suggesting that board members should recuse
themselves regarding any decisions about projects / chapters / funding,
etc.?

Bev

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 1:54 PM, johanna curiel curiel <
johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:

> >>Hi all - Just curious - Are board members permitted to be project
> leaders? Isn't this somewhat of a conflict of interest?
>
> Depend on what it's been decided, just keep in mind all board members are
> chapter/project leaders ;-)
>
> Thats why I'm not deciding on what I'm proposing and this is an ongoing
> business before I became Board member
>
> regards
>
> Johanna
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> PS: Also, on this same note - just wondering if staff are permitted to be
>> project leaders, etc, as well. Please clarify, or kindly point to where to
>> find policy. thank you. Bev
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all - Just curious - Are board members permitted to be project
>>> leaders? Isn't this somewhat of a conflict of interest?
>>>
>>> Bev
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:01 AM, johanna curiel curiel <
>>> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Matt for clarifying the actual budget.
>>>>
>>>> >>I'm assuming you mean active project leaders with a preference for
>>>> Flagship and Labs over incubator.
>>>> Definitely, since these are the projects that have shown clear and
>>>> stable progress
>>>>
>>>> Right now I have assembled a list of project leaders that requested
>>>> help and which projects they have:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ch21LP2S_y_mfmTdDK33
>>>> JILUJkd_iIgvp9fS09a5hV4/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> Based on this:
>>>> @Claudia + Matt : Please, could you check if these projects are active
>>>> and have been recently reviewed?
>>>>
>>>> @Claudia: Could you please ask the project leaders to submit how much
>>>> money they need for traveling and you will have to check how much they have
>>>> available in their project budget which they can use. Please, fill in the
>>>> information here so then we know how much will be the total  requested
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Johanna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Matt Tesauro <matt.tesauro at owasp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Answering inline...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:03 PM, johanna curiel curiel <
>>>>> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Board,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the moment, there are is a group of project leaders that need
>>>>>> support to assist to the OWASP summit in London:
>>>>>> http://owaspsummit.org/Logistics/Participants-need-support.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One minor correction, Claudia is going to have her travel covered
>>>>> using the "Staff Travel" budget so she doesn't need to be on that list. At
>>>>> least that will make the request a wee bit smaller : )
>>>>>
>>>>> These leaders have clearly shown their high end contributions but
>>>>>> unfortunately some of them, do not have enough budget in their projects to
>>>>>> assist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Initially, we wanted to consolidate the budget into one major summit
>>>>>> instead of having a small project summit during the APPSEC EU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Historically, the reason why we are doing it during the APPSEC is
>>>>>> because creating and organizing one major summit as the one happening in
>>>>>> London, requires a lot of effort, which now is being driven by Seba and
>>>>>> Dinis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I personally think that investing in one summit is the best, and
>>>>>> allowing project leaders to use their project budget + extra allocation to
>>>>>> assist to a major summit will be very beneficial for the organization and
>>>>>> specially to the project leaders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Matt Tesauro does not want to allocate this money which has
>>>>>> already been reserved for a small summit in appsec eu, as he mentioned
>>>>>> because they want to have a small project summit during the appsec, I also
>>>>>> agree with that but, we should allow project leaders the opportunity to
>>>>>> decide which one they want to assist and really think through want are we
>>>>>> achieving during these small summits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Its not about allocating the funds - its about giving project leaders
>>>>> the largest number of opportunities to attend a project summit - small or
>>>>> large.  Since we're volunteer based, its fair to assume that most project
>>>>> leaders will be taking time off work or away from family to attend either
>>>>> AppSec EU or the Summit in London.  Its also fair to assume that some
>>>>> leaders will choose one over the other for some reason - financial, taking
>>>>> time off work, planned vacations, who knows.  So, even though the Summit in
>>>>> London should be an amazing event, I don't want to deprive leaders who
>>>>> choose to go to AppSec EU a chance to attend a project summit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, when Tom Pappas and I went over the budget after the last board
>>>>> call, we discovered that the project summits at the global AppSec events
>>>>> had more budget then they needed and we moved 50% of those funds to the
>>>>> London Summit so there has been an allocation to support the London Summit
>>>>> already.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Claudia mentioned that she could assist us attending the London
>>>>>> summit and we want to organize a major OWASP project review villa during
>>>>>> this summit too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup.  Claudia will be there.  I have a vacation that's already planned
>>>>> and paid for during the same time that I cannot shift so this will be the
>>>>> first OWASP Summit that I miss and it makes me sad.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My concrete request to the Board is to allocate a maximum of USD20K
>>>>>> for active project leaders to assist to the summit in London, allowing them
>>>>>> to decide if they prefer to assist this one instead of London, based on
>>>>>> their actual Project budget and use from this allocation if they do not
>>>>>> have enough in their budget here:
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/spreadsheets/d/11acTOmtm
>>>>>> BGq6-5CIGsjlEByU8POSGqda0r23VNnhEGQ/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&ou
>>>>>> tput=html#
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm assuming you mean active project leaders with a preference for
>>>>> Flagship and Labs over incubator.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, you might want to check with Tom Pappas and Andrew to see what
>>>>> has been set aside in the 2017 budget for the London Summit.  Like I said
>>>>> above, there was $50k moved in the budget from the Global AppSec Summit
>>>>> budget line into the London Summit so there may be room already for
>>>>> supporting those leaders depending on what was already budgeted less what
>>>>> the London Summit needs for funds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If a project has enough money to cover a 5 day ticket + Traveling
>>>>>> cost, then they will not need money from these 20K, otherwise if they do
>>>>>> not have , they could use it, in addition to other costs such as traveling
>>>>>> tickets
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Matt Tesauro
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let us know your thoughts regarding this and how can we move
>>>>>> forward to take a decision (which will exclude my vote given my potential
>>>>>> conflict of interest) in these matter, allocating 20K for active project
>>>>>> leaders
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Johanna Curiel
>>>>>> OWASP Volunteer
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Johanna Curiel
>>>> OWASP Volunteer
>>>>
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>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Johanna Curiel
> OWASP Volunteer
>
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