[Owasp-board] REQUEST BUDGET: for project leaders to assist OWASP summit London

johanna curiel curiel johanna.curiel at owasp.org
Sat Feb 11 18:54:49 UTC 2017


>>Hi all - Just curious - Are board members permitted to be project
leaders? Isn't this somewhat of a conflict of interest?

Depend on what it's been decided, just keep in mind all board members are
chapter/project leaders ;-)

Thats why I'm not deciding on what I'm proposing and this is an ongoing
business before I became Board member

regards

Johanna



On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org> wrote:

> PS: Also, on this same note - just wondering if staff are permitted to be
> project leaders, etc, as well. Please clarify, or kindly point to where to
> find policy. thank you. Bev
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all - Just curious - Are board members permitted to be project
>> leaders? Isn't this somewhat of a conflict of interest?
>>
>> Bev
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:01 AM, johanna curiel curiel <
>> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Matt for clarifying the actual budget.
>>>
>>> >>I'm assuming you mean active project leaders with a preference for
>>> Flagship and Labs over incubator.
>>> Definitely, since these are the projects that have shown clear and
>>> stable progress
>>>
>>> Right now I have assembled a list of project leaders that requested help
>>> and which projects they have:
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ch21LP2S_y_mfmTdDK33
>>> JILUJkd_iIgvp9fS09a5hV4/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Based on this:
>>> @Claudia + Matt : Please, could you check if these projects are active
>>> and have been recently reviewed?
>>>
>>> @Claudia: Could you please ask the project leaders to submit how much
>>> money they need for traveling and you will have to check how much they have
>>> available in their project budget which they can use. Please, fill in the
>>> information here so then we know how much will be the total  requested
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Johanna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Matt Tesauro <matt.tesauro at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Answering inline...
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:03 PM, johanna curiel curiel <
>>>> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Board,
>>>>>
>>>>> At the moment, there are is a group of project leaders that need
>>>>> support to assist to the OWASP summit in London:
>>>>> http://owaspsummit.org/Logistics/Participants-need-support.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One minor correction, Claudia is going to have her travel covered using
>>>> the "Staff Travel" budget so she doesn't need to be on that list. At least
>>>> that will make the request a wee bit smaller : )
>>>>
>>>> These leaders have clearly shown their high end contributions but
>>>>> unfortunately some of them, do not have enough budget in their projects to
>>>>> assist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Initially, we wanted to consolidate the budget into one major summit
>>>>> instead of having a small project summit during the APPSEC EU.
>>>>>
>>>>> Historically, the reason why we are doing it during the APPSEC is
>>>>> because creating and organizing one major summit as the one happening in
>>>>> London, requires a lot of effort, which now is being driven by Seba and
>>>>> Dinis.
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally think that investing in one summit is the best, and
>>>>> allowing project leaders to use their project budget + extra allocation to
>>>>> assist to a major summit will be very beneficial for the organization and
>>>>> specially to the project leaders.
>>>>>
>>>>> If Matt Tesauro does not want to allocate this money which has already
>>>>> been reserved for a small summit in appsec eu, as he mentioned because they
>>>>> want to have a small project summit during the appsec, I also agree with
>>>>> that but, we should allow project leaders the opportunity to decide which
>>>>> one they want to assist and really think through want are we achieving
>>>>> during these small summits.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Its not about allocating the funds - its about giving project leaders
>>>> the largest number of opportunities to attend a project summit - small or
>>>> large.  Since we're volunteer based, its fair to assume that most project
>>>> leaders will be taking time off work or away from family to attend either
>>>> AppSec EU or the Summit in London.  Its also fair to assume that some
>>>> leaders will choose one over the other for some reason - financial, taking
>>>> time off work, planned vacations, who knows.  So, even though the Summit in
>>>> London should be an amazing event, I don't want to deprive leaders who
>>>> choose to go to AppSec EU a chance to attend a project summit.
>>>>
>>>> Also, when Tom Pappas and I went over the budget after the last board
>>>> call, we discovered that the project summits at the global AppSec events
>>>> had more budget then they needed and we moved 50% of those funds to the
>>>> London Summit so there has been an allocation to support the London Summit
>>>> already.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Claudia mentioned that she could assist us attending the London summit
>>>>> and we want to organize a major OWASP project review villa during this
>>>>> summit too.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yup.  Claudia will be there.  I have a vacation that's already planned
>>>> and paid for during the same time that I cannot shift so this will be the
>>>> first OWASP Summit that I miss and it makes me sad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My concrete request to the Board is to allocate a maximum of USD20K
>>>>> for active project leaders to assist to the summit in London, allowing them
>>>>> to decide if they prefer to assist this one instead of London, based on
>>>>> their actual Project budget and use from this allocation if they do not
>>>>> have enough in their budget here:
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/spreadsheets/d/11acTOmtm
>>>>> BGq6-5CIGsjlEByU8POSGqda0r23VNnhEGQ/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&output=html#
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm assuming you mean active project leaders with a preference for
>>>> Flagship and Labs over incubator.
>>>>
>>>> Also, you might want to check with Tom Pappas and Andrew to see what
>>>> has been set aside in the 2017 budget for the London Summit.  Like I said
>>>> above, there was $50k moved in the budget from the Global AppSec Summit
>>>> budget line into the London Summit so there may be room already for
>>>> supporting those leaders depending on what was already budgeted less what
>>>> the London Summit needs for funds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If a project has enough money to cover a 5 day ticket + Traveling
>>>>> cost, then they will not need money from these 20K, otherwise if they do
>>>>> not have , they could use it, in addition to other costs such as traveling
>>>>> tickets
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> -- Matt Tesauro
>>>>
>>>> Please let us know your thoughts regarding this and how can we move
>>>>> forward to take a decision (which will exclude my vote given my potential
>>>>> conflict of interest) in these matter, allocating 20K for active project
>>>>> leaders
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Johanna Curiel
>>>>> OWASP Volunteer
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Johanna Curiel
>>> OWASP Volunteer
>>>
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>>
>


-- 
Johanna Curiel
OWASP Volunteer
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