[Owasp-board] [Owasp-leaders] Regarding Budget 2017- Allow OWASP members to participate

Bev Corwin bev.corwin at owasp.org
Thu Sep 8 16:29:40 UTC 2016


A wise board will often have a good survey or feedback mechanism for
continuous improvement input from members.

Bev


On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:22 PM, johanna curiel curiel <
johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:

> Hi Martin
>
> No one can take that responsibility from the Board. They are the final
> responsibles.
>
> I only suggest to at least consider some feedback on how members feel
> about certain choices they might take.
>
> Choices that will affect the foundation in the future.Referendums exist
> for a reason.
>
> We choose leaders , but it does not mean that these should not at least
> listen to what members think regarding the major decisions like this.
> In the end, the final decisions are taken by the board.
>
> Example, you  can run a survey among project/chapter leaders regarding how
> they feel on certain decisions affecting them directly and use that info to
> make decisions based on maybe, some facts that you as a board member have
> overlooked.
>
> cheers
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Martin Knobloch <
> martin.knobloch at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Josh, et all,
>>
>> The board is responsible and elected to steer the OWASP organization,
>> therefor the board should be responsible for the financial decisions.
>> The board has all the insights required.
>>
>> MHO,
>> -martin
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm curious if there are others who feel like a community vote should
>>> happen for the OWASP Foundation annual budget?  I agree with Johanna that
>>> this is a decision that has a huge impact on the OWASP community, but the
>>> OWASP Foundation Bylaws do not specify any process around membership voting
>>> for anything other than the Board of Directors for the Foundation.  Not
>>> only would a vote on the budget be a first for the Foundation, with no
>>> proper guidelines around it, but I have some concerns about a vote not
>>> really equating to a consensus, based on past turnouts.  And then there's
>>> the issue of timeline...
>>>
>>> So far, I haven't really heard any feedback on Andrew's budgeting
>>> proposal, other than Tom and I, and I would really like to know if there
>>> are others who feel strongly about this topic before we consider the
>>> logistics involved with a community-wide vote on a topic that has
>>> historically been handled by the OWASP Foundation Board and staff.
>>>
>>> ~josh
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 6:57 AM, johanna curiel curiel <
>>> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Board
>>>>
>>>> On another email, Andrew has proposed some ideas on how the Budget for
>>>> 2017 should be administered:
>>>> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2016-September/date.html
>>>>
>>>> I think you should consider creating a survey where you allow OWASP
>>>> members to vote on such important matters.Especially, when it seems there
>>>> are conflicting opinions already between board members.
>>>>
>>>> These kind of decisions have a huge impact on the entire community
>>>> across OWASP, and it should be consider at least, to allow members to vote
>>>> regarding this before any final decisions are taken by the board.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Johanna Curiel
>>>>
>>>>
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>
>
> --
> Johanna Curiel
> OWASP Volunteer
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