[Owasp-board] Brand Usage Guidelines

Noreen Whysel noreen.whysel at owasp.org
Thu Mar 24 14:28:30 UTC 2016

That is exactly how I saw it. But we did make a small revision to the branding guidelines and would love to hear feedback.  We suggested text stating that the logo is OWASP IP and permission to use does not constitute a sale. Dirk is correct that we can't police every instance of misuse. There is not a lot we can do if an incidence goes unreported, but at least we can address those that do have a clear violation.

Regarding compliance, is there any public or internal record of compliance decisions we can reference when this kind of complaint comes up?

Noreen Whysel
Community Manager
OWASP Foundation

> On Mar 24, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Martin Knobloch <martin.knobloch at owasp.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> There is a bit more background to that. When the question originally was raised, I was still acting Comliant/Whistleblower officer.
> The logo the discussion is about is not the OWASP Foundation Logo (O with an wasp), but the "German Chapter Supporter logo".
> The previous sponsor contract for the German OWASP Day, the local OWASP Germany event, stated free use of that logo.
> The logo (see attached) states "German Chapter" and in the second line "This company supports the the OWASP German Chapter" with and German-branded OWASP Logo.
> This is has been rejected by me not being an complaint issue, as
> The German chapter sponsor contract allows free usage of this logo
> The logo clearly and not understandable states this company [using this logo] supports the German chapter, not that the company nor any service of that company would be supported or forwarded by the German chapter.
> The sponsor contract does only allow the usage of the chapter supporter logo.
> Let me know if you need more background info
> Regards,
> -marti
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Noreen Whysel <noreen.whysel at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Josh,
>> We received critical comment from Dirk Wetter, suggesting that allowing members (individual, corporate and sponsors) to display our logo somehow constitutes a "sale" of the logo and should not be permitted. He used as an example a local sponsor of OWASP Germany that included an OWASP logo on their training flyer. The logo included text indicating the are a supporter of OWASP which in my mind makes a clear indication that they support us, not that we endorse the training. However, Dirk feels that our endorsement is implicit in any display of our logo. He goes as far as saying our logo should not be used on partner events and events we are cohosting either, which to me goes too far. 
>> We need a balance between getting our image and links to our resources out their and protecting it. We could include a rule that says under no circumstances may the OWASP logo be used in advertising, unless it is for a cohosted event or partnership where a signed agreement exists.
>> Love to hear your thoughts.
>> Noreen Whysel
>> Community Manager
>> OWASP Foundation
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Paul Ritchie <paul.ritchie at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Hi josh.  The short answer is we have made 2 update to the wiki guideline language, and Norden has a third update change pending.
>>> The red line of that recommended update is on the branding page 'discussion page'.
>>> @Noreen,  please take lead to expand on this short answer, AND take proactive steps to get community feedback then approval of this next set of changes.
>>> Thanks Paul
>>>> On Mar 23, 2016 9:04 AM, "Josh Sokol" <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>> Paul,
>>>> It seems that the question of OWASP branding has come up yet again.  I know that we set you and Noreen off to redefine our guidelines, possibly with the help of the Mozilla lawyers, but I haven't heard anything for several months on that.  Would you mind giving us an update of your progress thus far?  Thank you!
>>>> ~josh
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