[Owasp-board] Oh no, not again...
matt.konda at owasp.org
Wed Jan 27 13:42:59 UTC 2016
Perhaps a simple nudge to some of the lead organizers to think about this
and offer to network them to capable people would be helpful.
Unless anyone objects, I will reach out to them for that.
Beyond that, I think we have work to do before we can set an explicit
expectation around this.
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Laura Grau <laura.grau at owasp.org> wrote:
> Hello Andrew,
> As far as I know there are not rules defined for the Selection Committee
> at the Global AppSec Conferences, local teams can invite whoever they want
> and use their own system to review and score the submissions.
> Call For Papers and Call For Trainings is open to everybody and widely
> advertise, so men and women can submit.
> OWASP staff do not play any role here other than contacting all the
> submitters, after the selection has been made, in order to let them know
> whether their presentation has been selected and ask for the required
> information to those who have been chosen (bio, headshoot, abstract, signed
> agreement, etc.)
> Please let me know if you need any further information.
> Best Regards,
> Laura Grau
> *Global Conference Manager*
> *OWASP Foundation*
> *laura.grau at owasp.org* <laura.grau at owasp.org>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org>
>> All great questions. I'd direct these to Laura, Paul and the Conference
>> The conference process does have some rules defined, but a significant
>> amount of decision making (in many aspects) is delegated to the local
>> planning team.
>> Michael Coates | @_mwc <https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=_mwc>
>> OWASP Global Board
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:02 AM, Andrew van der Stock <vanderaj at owasp.org
>> > wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>> I note with frustration that again, despite the absolutely astonishing
>>> odds of this occurring, we seem to have ended up with 25 men and 0 women on
>>> the papers committee at AppSec EU.
>>> I will let that sink in for a second. 25 men. 0 women. 2016.
>>> I'm sure all of them are excellent and are doing a good job, but there
>>> has to be at least a few women on this planet who could and wanted to help
>>> out, if only they had been asked or been in the right place at the right
>>> time. I might not be looking at the right place, but where was the
>>> announcement to get on the papers committee. It's not on AppSecEU's social
>>> media feed. I've searched the most likely mail lists, and nothing. So how
>>> did this committee form?
>>> What do we have in place to make sure that we:
>>> - Do we have a standard way of calling for a papers committee? I
>>> don't see any announcement
>>> - Ensure that there's at least *some* women representation on any
>>> conference's papers committee?
>>> - Did we reach out to or invite anyone from the OWASP Women in
>>> AppSec group to be on the papers committee?
>>> - Do we make sure proposals being vetted by the papers committee are
>>> blind (i.e. the gender, name and bio are missing on ALL submissions)?
>>> - Do we have a conflict of interest policy for PC members so they
>>> can't submit papers or training? I'd hate for a new speaker or someone who
>>> normally doesn't speak at OWASP conferences, like developers, have a shot
>>> over someone on the PC*.
>>> - Do we have a few slots available for new speakers? Do we reach
>>> outside the echo chamber to fill these slots, whether by invitation or
>>> invitation to submit? There are some awesome speakers at JavaOne and at
>>> OSCON and at other conferences. It would be great to get some
>>> inter-profession dialog going
>>> - Do we reach out to OWASP Women in AppSec to outright invite a
>>> keynote or two or ask for speakers to submit?
>>> - Do we reach out on social media to ask new and gender diverse
>>> speakers to submit?
>>> - Do we make sure when the final selection is made that it's not
>>> complete wall to wall male presenters?
>>> I am looking for answers. I will be watching the results of the paper
>>> selection with some interest, as we cannot ever again have a situation
>>> where there are no women presenting at our four major global conferences.
>>> * Full disclosure: I have put a training submission in for the ASVS at
>>> Rome. I am not on the papers committee.
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