[Owasp-board] [Owasp-leaders] Regarding Project reviews and metrics misconceptions

johanna curiel curiel johanna.curiel at owasp.org
Fri Feb 26 14:09:49 UTC 2016


I'm glad you taking over. Is time to put so resources to work properly on

Good luck ;-)



On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Munir Njiru <munir.njiru at owasp.org> wrote:

> This is great :)
> Munir Njenga,
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> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Tom Brennan - OWASP <tomb at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>> This is understandable and now the second time.  Since we are coming to
>> full stop on OWASP projects again and on reviews OWASP will need to adjust
>> 1) I am going to bring together experienced project people from all over
>> the world face to face for a paid offsite within 45 days.
>> 2) I am going to continue on the process of hiring full time technical
>> staff for the purpose of run day to day project operations the Job will be
>> posted publicly shortly
>> 3) We are going to need do a public relaunch in Q3
>> Thank you for your investment of thousands of hours and I look forward to
>> seeing you in person at the project reboot offsite if you are available to
>> travel to it.
>> To all projects that want to start, or evolve across the different
>> "stages" we will have to address this after a short pause OWASP leaders
>> (you) can define rough consensus and address this as part of its strategic
>> goal investment for 2016.
>> Thank you for all you and the other volunteers like Enrico have done to
>> date.
>> Tom Brennan
>> Global Board Directors
>> OWASP Projects
>> On Friday, February 26, 2016, johanna curiel curiel <
>> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Paul, Tom
>>> Based on the emails I exchanged yesterday with Paul, I have the
>>> impression that there are many misconceptions of what volunteers in
>>> previous committees were doing and that was not to maintain and keep up
>>> Project dashboards or metrics.
>>> Since 2009, this was done by Poulo Coimbra, then Samantha (partially
>>> with help of Kait-Disney) and I assisted when no one was working as staff.
>>> Check the wiki updates and Dashboard since 2009. You don't have to
>>> believe me but verify facts.
>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=OWASP_Projects_Dashboard&offset=&limit=500&action=history
>>> I also understand you would like to hire a technical project manager
>>> because Claudia seems to have too much work, or that I set her to work with
>>> things not updated since 2 years ago?
>>> Please , get facts right. I did already did clean up in May 2015:
>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Johanna_Curiel&offset=&limit=500&target=Johanna+Curiel
>>> And publicised a Piktographic report:
>>> https://magic.piktochart.com/output/6323285-project-reviews
>>> Including all the updates of project in Openhub. I was the one who did
>>> that.
>>> I would say I will be more than happy that the foundation takes over
>>> this entire review process from volunteers because it has never worked.
>>> Nor in 2009, neither now, expecting volunteers to do reviews,* although
>>> they never kept metrics, wiki inventories or dashboards except me.*
>>> *BTW I work full time.Study & Work*
>>> Also, it seems that there is a big confusion as the only thing we are
>>> trying to do is to make the review process easier by building an overview
>>> criteria and self-asssesment, so leaders can determine were they are. I
>>> have written this so many times but it seems no one read my proposals or
>>> emails.
>>> I stop my activities in reviews and proposal.
>>> At this point , I feel that there is a lot of misinformation of facts
>>> and I feel I'm being judge in a way that I don't consider fair. At this
>>> point I'm feeling judged, mistreated from certain board members with
>>> comments such as 'none asked you to do any work here'.
>>> Wow , nice way to treat volunteers, no wonder why there is no one
>>> helping with this.
>>> I wish you good luck with this activity.
>>> It has not been easy for anyone since 2009.
>>> Cheers
>>> --
>>> Johanna Curiel
>>> OWASP Volunteer
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Johanna Curiel
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