[Owasp-board] We need to Lead definition of Active Leader

Noreen Whysel noreen.whysel at owasp.org
Mon Oct 19 16:12:31 UTC 2015


Yes. I believe Claudia was working on that.

Noreen Whysel
Community Manager
OWASP Foundation

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:

> May I suggest that the project folk work on that one...  :)
>
> - Jim
>
>
> On 10/19/15 5:59 PM, Fabio Cerullo wrote:
>
> Thanks Noreen. Could you please also come up with a definition for active
> (project) leader?
>
>
> Fabio Cerullo
> Global Board Member
> OWASP Foundation
> https://www.owasp.org
>
> On 19 Oct 2015, at 4:51 p.m., Noreen Whysel <noreen.whysel at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
> Here are the links to these chapters:
>
> Active Chapter Definition:
>
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Chapter_Handbook/Chapter_2:_Mandatory_Chapter_Rules
>
> Active Chapter Leader Definition:
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Chapter_Handbook/Chapter_5:_Governance
>
> The definitions could go before the Contact Us section here:
>
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Chapter_Handbook/Chapter_1:_Handbook_Overview
>
> Noreen Whysel
> Community Manager
> OWASP Foundation
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Noreen Whysel <
> <noreen.whysel at owasp.org>noreen.whysel at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> I have added my definition of Active Chapter to the lead paragraph of
>> Chapter 2 of the Chapter Leader Handbook.
>>
>> I have added the definition of an Active Leader to the first bullet under
>> 5.1 Leadership in Chapter 5 of the Chapter Leader Handbook.
>>
>> Any references to Active Chapter or Active Chapter Leader should link to
>> these definitions.
>>
>> Alternatively (or in addition), we could put a section on Definitions in
>> Chapter 1: Handbook Overview.
>>
>> Noreen Whysel
>> Community Manager
>> OWASP Foundation
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Noreen Whysel <noreen.whysel at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok. Just a clarification. Since chapter leaders can't update SF it can't
>>> be part of the requirement. Wiki page and Mailman admin is all they need.
>>>
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> Noreen Whysel
>>> Community Manager
>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>
>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Paul Ritchie < <paul.ritchie at owasp.org>
>>> paul.ritchie at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, good feedback.
>>>
>>> Notice locations - In addition to buried in handbook, I think the second
>>> highest priority would be to highlight that definition on a chapter
>>> homepage.    More then that is to many places.
>>>
>>> 2 meetings before $500....No, I was just trying to stimulate the thought
>>> process.  Board did comment that they thought a first meeting would be
>>> needed anyway to generate a second leader.
>>> So....if you and want to make this decision NOW....I'm OK with   1)
>>> complete all your 'normal' new chapter paperwork, plus 2) must have a
>>> second leader officially named on wiki and SF database.
>>>
>>> 3.  Re Ghana - I will expect all staff to 'hold the line'   $500 is
>>> designed as an incentive to "be active" 'get shared' leadership and 'be
>>> responsive.    If there is no update....there is no money.    If he is
>>> responsive and meets requirements....wow = incentive money.
>>> I imagine there may be several of these....either not responsive, or
>>> can't find that 2nd leader.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Best Regards, Paul Ritchie
>>> OWASP Executive Director
>>> <paul.ritchie at owasp.org>paul.ritchie at owasp.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Noreen Whysel OWASP <
>>> <noreen.whysel at owasp.org>noreen.whysel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Q1 chapter handbook under governance chapter only. Everywhere else we
>>>> mention active leaders can link to that section but o don't think it is
>>>> wise to have it all over the place in case it changes over time. Projects
>>>> handbook probably has a place that makes sense where it discusses leaders.
>>>>
>>>> Implementation:
>>>> -notice to leader list and next news flash
>>>> -email alert to all leaders (same list as the monthly finding
>>>> announcement) and include info on how to make sure all your leaders are on
>>>> the Owasp-leaders list by adding them to Mailman admin field.
>>>> -edit new leader welcome and Chapter Active? Templates on SF.
>>>> -personal email to any leader who has discussed upcoming events or
>>>> funding requirements.
>>>> -probably should do a joint hangout with Tobias and a 24/7 Podcast to
>>>> discuss the proposals and what it means for chapter and project leaders
>>>> when the votes are complete.
>>>>
>>>> Q2 So chapters would be required to go out of pocket or find a local
>>>> sponsor for two meetings before they can get funding? Is this a new
>>>> addition that the board came up with or just something we are knocking
>>>> around on staff? I think this would be prohibitive in some areas. It's
>>>> a bit Catch 22. I fear that a sponsor would want to know that a chapter is
>>>> a going concern before putting out funds. At the same time a new chapter
>>>> leader is only going to put himself out of he knows he has foundation
>>>> funding to host a successful meeting and draw attendance.
>>>>
>>>> Btw at present Ghana would not qualify for funding because he hasn't
>>>> updated the wiki in two years. I have told him that he needs to do it but
>>>> his response is sort of Yeah, Yeah or no response. That worries me
>>>> particularly since he is asking me to help find speakers.
>>>>
>>>> Noreen Whysel
>>>> Community Manager
>>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Paul Ritchie < <paul.ritchie at owasp.org>
>>>> paul.ritchie at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi....OK, if thats the jist of it and it covers the Johanna comments
>>>> per Josh's email...that I'm good.
>>>>
>>>> The next step is cutting and pasting this into our 'official
>>>> communication' about these changes to the community.   Sharing that draft
>>>> implementation plan at least internally with staff, getting consensus on
>>>> timeline and then launching.
>>>>
>>>> A few, like proposal #4 allow the $500 to be allocated at any NEW
>>>> Chapter, *effective immediately*, once it completes all its new
>>>> chapter tasks and has 2 Active leaders.
>>>>
>>>> Q1  Have you considered where and when you would post this new
>>>> information on the wiki?  Chapter handbook is fine, but other
>>>> locations....and then your timeline to complete, ie. how will you
>>>> implement?  is the basis of my question.
>>>>
>>>> Q2..Must a new Chapter hold its first meeting, or perhaps 2 meetings to
>>>> qualify for the "new chapter funds?
>>>> Or, for proposal #4,  is our implementation plan to ensure they meet
>>>> the minimum requirement of 2 leaders defined, and then all normal new
>>>> Chapter information documented in Wiki and Sales force...without needing a
>>>> requirement for a 1st meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Net net Noreen, I will be documenting and drafting up the
>>>> implementation project on the budgeting proposals,
>>>>
>>>> I was looking to have you lead the implementation of the new chapter
>>>> funding communication & rules...aligned with Claudia re: new projects.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I'm totally open to more ideas if you have some other ideas
>>>> on How best to define & communicate 'what was just approved' and how we
>>>> will implement?   It just needs to get done and I want to confirm owners
>>>> for each portion of work effort.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards, Paul Ritchie
>>>> OWASP Executive Director
>>>> <paul.ritchie at owasp.org>paul.ritchie at owasp.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Noreen Whysel OWASP <
>>>> <noreen.whysel at owasp.org>noreen.whysel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My impression is that the board is satisfied with my definition of an
>>>>> active leader. Is there something missing from your POV from these two
>>>>> requirements:
>>>>>
>>>>> -Must have contact information clearly accessible from
>>>>> chapter/project/initiative page.
>>>>> -Must be responsive to inquiries (i.e. Reply within 7 business days)
>>>>>
>>>>> Noreen Whysel
>>>>> Community Manager
>>>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Paul Ritchie < <paul.ritchie at owasp.org>
>>>>> paul.ritchie at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Noreen - I see your email below but all my impressions are that the
>>>>> BoD is expected us on Staff to "lead" this discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fabio isn't going to do it....and since 'we' will be implementing and
>>>>> answering all chapter level questions, than WE , and by functional
>>>>> responsibility....You, are the one to summarize responses and propose final
>>>>> definition of Active Leader.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you do that Monday or Tuesday at the latest.
>>>>> Basically send out the preferred definition, as a draft, that would
>>>>> allow you or me to make a pretty clear decision if the leader is
>>>>> Active...with a minimum of potential dispute.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Noreen Whysel*
>>>>> *5:16 am (1 day ago)*
>>>>> *to Fabio, OWASP *
>>>>> *I have given my suggestions. When you have agreed on a final
>>>>> definition I will incorporate it into the Chapter Leader Handbook. *
>>>>>
>>>>> *It is also important to consider Claudia and Johanna's definition of
>>>>> an active project and active project leader. I presume it is similar, ie,
>>>>> meets minimum requirements/responsive, but not sure if different levels of
>>>>> projects would have different requirements.*
>>>>> *Noreen *
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards, Paul Ritchie
>>>>> OWASP Executive Director
>>>>> <paul.ritchie at owasp.org>paul.ritchie at owasp.org
>>>>> BAsic
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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