[Owasp-board] We need to Lead definition of Active Leader

Noreen Whysel noreen.whysel at owasp.org
Mon Oct 19 15:49:32 UTC 2015

I have added my definition of Active Chapter to the lead paragraph of
Chapter 2 of the Chapter Leader Handbook.

I have added the definition of an Active Leader to the first bullet under
5.1 Leadership in Chapter 5 of the Chapter Leader Handbook.

Any references to Active Chapter or Active Chapter Leader should link to
these definitions.

Alternatively (or in addition), we could put a section on Definitions in
Chapter 1: Handbook Overview.

Noreen Whysel
Community Manager
OWASP Foundation

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Noreen Whysel <noreen.whysel at owasp.org>

> Ok. Just a clarification. Since chapter leaders can't update SF it can't
> be part of the requirement. Wiki page and Mailman admin is all they need.
> ;)
> Noreen Whysel
> Community Manager
> OWASP Foundation
> On Oct 16, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Paul Ritchie <paul.ritchie at owasp.org> wrote:
> Thanks, good feedback.
> Notice locations - In addition to buried in handbook, I think the second
> highest priority would be to highlight that definition on a chapter
> homepage.    More then that is to many places.
> 2 meetings before $500....No, I was just trying to stimulate the thought
> process.  Board did comment that they thought a first meeting would be
> needed anyway to generate a second leader.
> So....if you and want to make this decision NOW....I'm OK with   1)
> complete all your 'normal' new chapter paperwork, plus 2) must have a
> second leader officially named on wiki and SF database.
> 3.  Re Ghana - I will expect all staff to 'hold the line'   $500 is
> designed as an incentive to "be active" 'get shared' leadership and 'be
> responsive.    If there is no update....there is no money.    If he is
> responsive and meets requirements....wow = incentive money.
> I imagine there may be several of these....either not responsive, or can't
> find that 2nd leader.
> Paul
> Best Regards, Paul Ritchie
> OWASP Executive Director
> paul.ritchie at owasp.org
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Noreen Whysel OWASP <
> noreen.whysel at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Q1 chapter handbook under governance chapter only. Everywhere else we
>> mention active leaders can link to that section but o don't think it is
>> wise to have it all over the place in case it changes over time. Projects
>> handbook probably has a place that makes sense where it discusses leaders.
>> Implementation:
>> -notice to leader list and next news flash
>> -email alert to all leaders (same list as the monthly finding
>> announcement) and include info on how to make sure all your leaders are on
>> the Owasp-leaders list by adding them to Mailman admin field.
>> -edit new leader welcome and Chapter Active? Templates on SF.
>> -personal email to any leader who has discussed upcoming events or
>> funding requirements.
>> -probably should do a joint hangout with Tobias and a 24/7 Podcast to
>> discuss the proposals and what it means for chapter and project leaders
>> when the votes are complete.
>> Q2 So chapters would be required to go out of pocket or find a local
>> sponsor for two meetings before they can get funding? Is this a new
>> addition that the board came up with or just something we are knocking
>> around on staff? I think this would be prohibitive in some areas. It's a
>> bit Catch 22. I fear that a sponsor would want to know that a chapter is a
>> going concern before putting out funds. At the same time a new chapter
>> leader is only going to put himself out of he knows he has foundation
>> funding to host a successful meeting and draw attendance.
>> Btw at present Ghana would not qualify for funding because he hasn't
>> updated the wiki in two years. I have told him that he needs to do it but
>> his response is sort of Yeah, Yeah or no response. That worries me
>> particularly since he is asking me to help find speakers.
>> Noreen Whysel
>> Community Manager
>> OWASP Foundation
>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Paul Ritchie <paul.ritchie at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Hi....OK, if thats the jist of it and it covers the Johanna comments per
>> Josh's email...that I'm good.
>> The next step is cutting and pasting this into our 'official
>> communication' about these changes to the community.   Sharing that draft
>> implementation plan at least internally with staff, getting consensus on
>> timeline and then launching.
>> A few, like proposal #4 allow the $500 to be allocated at any NEW
>> Chapter, *effective immediately*, once it completes all its new chapter
>> tasks and has 2 Active leaders.
>> Q1  Have you considered where and when you would post this new
>> information on the wiki?  Chapter handbook is fine, but other
>> locations....and then your timeline to complete, ie. how will you
>> implement?  is the basis of my question.
>> Q2..Must a new Chapter hold its first meeting, or perhaps 2 meetings to
>> qualify for the "new chapter funds?
>> Or, for proposal #4,  is our implementation plan to ensure they meet the
>> minimum requirement of 2 leaders defined, and then all normal new Chapter
>> information documented in Wiki and Sales force...without needing a
>> requirement for a 1st meeting.
>> Net net Noreen, I will be documenting and drafting up the implementation
>> project on the budgeting proposals,
>> I was looking to have you lead the implementation of the new chapter
>> funding communication & rules...aligned with Claudia re: new projects.
>> Of course, I'm totally open to more ideas if you have some other ideas on
>> How best to define & communicate 'what was just approved' and how we will
>> implement?   It just needs to get done and I want to confirm owners for
>> each portion of work effort.
>> Paul
>> Best Regards, Paul Ritchie
>> OWASP Executive Director
>> paul.ritchie at owasp.org
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Noreen Whysel OWASP <
>> noreen.whysel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> My impression is that the board is satisfied with my definition of an
>>> active leader. Is there something missing from your POV from these two
>>> requirements:
>>> -Must have contact information clearly accessible from
>>> chapter/project/initiative page.
>>> -Must be responsive to inquiries (i.e. Reply within 7 business days)
>>> Noreen Whysel
>>> Community Manager
>>> OWASP Foundation
>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Paul Ritchie <paul.ritchie at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi Noreen - I see your email below but all my impressions are that the
>>> BoD is expected us on Staff to "lead" this discussion.
>>> Fabio isn't going to do it....and since 'we' will be implementing and
>>> answering all chapter level questions, than WE , and by functional
>>> responsibility....You, are the one to summarize responses and propose final
>>> definition of Active Leader.
>>> Can you do that Monday or Tuesday at the latest.
>>> Basically send out the preferred definition, as a draft, that would
>>> allow you or me to make a pretty clear decision if the leader is
>>> Active...with a minimum of potential dispute.
>>> *Noreen Whysel*
>>> *5:16 am (1 day ago)*
>>> *to Fabio, OWASP *
>>> *I have given my suggestions. When you have agreed on a final definition
>>> I will incorporate it into the Chapter Leader Handbook. *
>>> *It is also important to consider Claudia and Johanna's definition of an
>>> active project and active project leader. I presume it is similar, ie,
>>> meets minimum requirements/responsive, but not sure if different levels of
>>> projects would have different requirements.*
>>> *Noreen *
>>> Best Regards, Paul Ritchie
>>> OWASP Executive Director
>>> paul.ritchie at owasp.org
>>> BAsic
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