[Owasp-board] Higher Criteria on Starting projects

psiinon psiinon at gmail.com
Sun Jun 21 19:20:43 UTC 2015

... or even promotion to Incubator ;)

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 8:14 PM, psiinon <psiinon at gmail.com> wrote:

> I like the fact that we have a low bar of entry, but definitely agree that
> we need to do a better job of making the useful/mature projects more
> visible.
> Perhaps we could have a new 'Candidate' or 'Prospective' category, which
> has the existing low bar of entry, but doenst confer full 'OWASP Project'
> status.
> These could then be listed on a separate page to the 'full' projects.
> Such projects would need to show a useful and significant deliverable to
> be even considered for promotion to labs.
> Cheers,
> Simon
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 6:49 PM, johanna curiel curiel <
> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >Perhaps we could relabel incubator projects to not even be a project
>> until they hit lab level maturity?
>> Yes, maybe only when they reach the LAB status, we can call them OWASP
>> projects , including all the benefits that comes along with being an OWASP
>> project.
>> Our concern is that :
>>    - Incubators are right now a huge part of the inventory and take time
>>    to evaluate
>>    - We want to graduate faster from Incubator to LAB a project that has
>>    produce a susbtantial deliverable such as a finalised document or a
>>    tool/code that works as a Beta version.(Example: OWASP top ten privacy
>>    risk, OWASP IoT, Proactive controls, Python Security project) .
>>    - These projects deserve more exposure and attention and is not fair
>>    get lost among others that have not even produce anything
>> We have some very good Incubators but they get 'lost' in this large list
>> of projects among other that have no value at all and where started once
>> but actually do not work or have incomplete work.
>> Regards
>> Johanna
>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>> This is tricky since it's important to encourage experimentation.
>>> Perhaps we could relabel incubator projects to not even be a project
>>> until they hit lab level maturity?
>>> I'll put some more brain matter into this and get back to you. Thank you
>>> Johanna...
>>> Aloha,
>>> --
>>> Jim Manico
>>> Global Board Member
>>> OWASP Foundation
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>>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 5:25 AM, johanna curiel curiel <
>>> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Dear Board and members of the Project Task Force
>>> A while ago, Timo Goosen and some owasp members have expressed their
>>> concern regarding of Projects (Incubators) and their low level of quality.
>>> It has come to our attention that there are projects started and in the
>>> opinion of some community members have very little added value top the
>>> OWASP project inventory. Therefore we want to revise the actual criteria
>>> but also we want to be as fair as we can providing opportunity to anyone to
>>> start a project, however we want value and projects that have a certain
>>> level of quality.
>>> I think we need to revise this criteria and create incentives for
>>> researchers interested to join OWASP with their projects.
>>> Right now we are giving a free pass to anyone, but we have seen way too
>>> many low quality projects that add no new value at all, in our opinion.
>>> Tools that sometimes do absolutely nothing to improve security or even
>>> reach a level of at least being properly installed or used.
>>> We would like to get some feedback on this, because we are really
>>> concern that sometimes people use OWASP to start a project without
>>> substance or any added value.
>>> @Timo, feel free to comment on your concerns
>>> Regards
>>> Johanna
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