[Owasp-board] OWASP Summer of Code Sprint Proposal - to be discussed at board meeting on April-29
tobias.gondrom at owasp.org
Mon Apr 27 17:32:21 UTC 2015
thanks. I added the link to the board page.
@all: if there are other alternative proposals, please do add them to
the Board page now. And post a quick message here, so people can read
all documents before our meeting on April-29.
On 27/04/15 18:12, Konstantinos Papapanagiotou wrote:
> We posted almost simultaneously.
> The updated proposal, including accepted feedback can be found here:
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org
> <mailto:tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>> wrote:
> Hi all,
> it's been great seeing this extensive discussion and exchange of a
> lot of ideas and comments on this topic. I can see that everyone
> wants the best for OWASP, the challenge is to find a joint common
> was forward. If possible, I would like to focus this discussion
> and lead to the next steps.
> So I added the topic to the next board meeting agenda on April 29
> at 12:00-13:00 PST.
> (Btw. all board meetings are open and public, so feel free to
> listen in, there will also be a recording afterwards.)
> *Could maybe Fabio (or another volunteer) write up a consolidated
> final proposal including the accepted feedback by Tuesday
> April-28, so that we could possibly vote on it or discuss the
> details / amend it on Wednesday April-29? **
> Thanks, Tobias
> Tobias Gondrom
> Chairman OWASP Global Board
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> On 26/04/15 23:24, Kevin W. Wall wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Jim Manico<jim.manico at owasp.org> <mailto:jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Another note is that if you look at all the projects this 250,000k$ funded
>>> in 2008...
>>> ...most are now dead projects.
>>> We do good at getting projects started but do poorly in bringing these
>>> projects to maturity.
>> Unless this was a list of all the projects what actually received funds for
>> the OWASP SoC 2008, I think this is an unfair characterization.
>> Instead, I think it is likely that this list of projects at
>> was just a list complete list of projects at the time. I think it is doubtful
>> that they all received funds, especially since there are two *inactive*
>> projects on that list.
>> Secondly, even if all of those projects received funds, almost 7 years
>> have passed since that time. While you may think that projects have
>> at OWASP have a lower success rate than than normal unfunded FOSS
>> projects, I'm not sure that conjecture is true and am not willing to
>> believe it based without some hard data to back it up. I suspect that
>> if we looked at FOSS overall, OWASP is probably about average. I
>> think it just seems worse because we are all more intimately aware of
>> all the OWASP projects that seem to fall by the wayside but in general
>> most failed FOSS projects go completely unnoticed by us.
>> Not only that, but compare the success rate of OWASP projects
>> to VC funded tech start ups and I'll bet that OWASP looks pretty
>> good in comparison, especially if you take into account that the
>> start-ups usually have full-time, paid staff while we are working
>> almost exclusively using volunteer hours.
>>> I really want us to make a big impact. I suggest we focus in on our flagship
>>> and lab projects with big potential. I'd hate to fund dozens of projects
>>> (again) that just die on the view a few years after getting funding.
>> Having said all that, I am by no means endorsing spending $30k in
>> funds without fully counting the costs and I just don't mean in money.
>> 2008 was before I got involved again with OWASP, but I'm guessing
>> that time was spent to make it a success whatever <season> of code
>> was run. I am just as much concerned that jumping into this in some
>> hasty manner will have much more negative effects than just possibly
>> not bring a significant ROI on the money decided to fund it.
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