[Owasp-board] Background check for Global Board members

Eoin Keary eoin.keary at owasp.org
Tue Sep 23 20:15:56 UTC 2014


Thanks Paul.
Much appreciated adding to your already large payload.

Eoin Keary
Owasp Global Board
+353 87 977 2988


On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:01, Paul Ritchie <paul.ritchie at owasp.org> wrote:

> Hi Paul here.
> 
> As suggested, I have reached out to Virtual Management already and asked them about using their service for background checks on Board candidates.  I asked them to double-check how much info, if any, they may be able to report on for our International Board candidates (non-US).  Lastly, I asked for a quick estimate on cost to provide this service.
> 
> As I hear new information, I will let you know
> Paul
> 
> Best Regards, Paul Ritchie
> OWASP Interim Executive Director
> paul.ritchie at owasp.org
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Yes,
>> Ireland is the same.
>> You can get vetted by the local police force but no background check.
>> 
>> 
>> Eoin Keary
>> Owasp Global Board
>> +353 87 977 2988
>> 
>> 
>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 03:21, Andrew van der Stock <vanderaj at owasp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Apologies for my $0.05c. 
>>> 
>>> Although I have a history in the US, so you can inspect the 2.5 years I lived there, good luck getting a national background check in Australia. Only government agencies are allowed to request it and I don't get the results. And our privacy system lies between the EU and US in terms of approach.
>>> 
>>> Again, as a current non-board member, I think a by-law change to prevent felons joining the Board is a good idea, but it may be impractical to obtain a background check in many countries. If you are drafting new by laws, it should be flexible in approach to ensure folks aren't knocked out because national laws override OWASP's by laws. 
>>> 
>>> Generally, if governments require a background check or clearance, they will ask for you to go through it for the purposes of the clearance. I wouldn't jump the gun unless specifically required. There is a push on right now to reduce the total number of folks with clearances to improve the quality of clearances and background checks, so we shouldn't be adding to the burden unless there is a specific issue the Board is trying to prevent. 
>>> 
>>> Again, apologies for sticking my nose in. Carry on.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>> Fair point, Eoin. This issue is governed very differently from country-to-country. I consider this "operations" and think we should simply ask Paul his opinion and experience here and go from there.
>>>> 
>>>> Glad you brought this up, Fabio.
>>>> 
>>>> Aloha,
>>>> --
>>>> Jim Manico
>>>> @Manicode
>>>> (808) 652-3805
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We have an EU entity also.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eoin Keary
>>>>> Owasp Global Board
>>>>> +353 87 977 2988
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 22 Sep 2014, at 21:40, Fabio Cerullo <fcerullo at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eoin, the Foundation is based in the US so the background check should be originated there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jim, thanks for the support on this initiative... I also believe is reasonable to vet staff/Board.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Josh, regarding scope we could use the same as currently used for OWASP staff.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paul, could you please provide an insight into how this is done for staff?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Fabio
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Good point, international rules are very wonky about this topic.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But in general, when we can, background checks for board and staff seem reasonable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Jim
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9/22/14, 4:00 PM, Eoin Keary wrote:
>>>>>>>> FYI,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Background checking in Ireland is limited to protect privacy 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.dataprotection.ie/docs/Data-Protection-in-the-Workplace/1239.htm
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Eoin Keary
>>>>>>>> Owasp Global Board
>>>>>>>> +353 87 977 2988
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2014, at 18:11, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm fine with this, but we would need to determine in advance what is deemed acceptable or unacceptable as it's not like a background check is a binary response (Good/Bad, Yes/No).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking safely and protection of the org. We do not want a felon running for the board, I think. I'm still reading about this and it looks fairly standard to background check those with legal duty in the organization, which includes potential staff hires and board....
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Jim Manico
>>>>>>>>>> @Manicode
>>>>>>>>>> (808) 652-3805
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Fabio, to quote you:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> "As we are gradually becoming more involved with government bodies in the US and abroad,.."
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Level of commitment? By getting a background check?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever suits the majority, I feel it is a waste of time, has this been requested yet?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Eoin Keary
>>>>>>>>>>> Owasp Global Board
>>>>>>>>>>> +353 87 977 2988
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2014, at 15:27, Fabio Cerullo <fcerullo at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eoin,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This goes beyond the government bodies and shows a level of commitment from the Global Board elected representatives. It actually aligns quite nicely with what has been agreed about HR training for Board members in our last Board meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking forward to your feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fabio
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the government in question would request a background check if necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eoin Keary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Owasp Global Board
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +353 87 977 2988
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2014, at 10:25, Fabio Cerullo <fcerullo at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we are gradually becoming more involved with government bodies in the US and abroad, I think is important                                                   to run a background check for new and current Global Board                                                   members going forward. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is some background info on the subject:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Background Checks, Screening and Your Nonprofit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nonprofitrisk.org/library/articles/backgroundchecks.shtml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Screening and Background Checking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nonprofitrisk.org/advice/faqs/screening2.shtml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know your thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fabio
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