[Owasp-board] Bolivia Chapter follow up

Tom Brennan tomb at proactiverisk.com
Fri May 16 16:44:07 UTC 2014


Can we have a member of the OWASP team that speaks spanish inquire
directly with these (4) members to ask for there perspective.  Before
we put a "hammer" down I would like to have someone talk to a member
that perhaps has attended a meeting and has witnessed violations.

Would also like to reinforce this is another example of why that a
owasp chapter leader should be required to be a OWASP member with a
@owasp.org email.   Honorary members are fine in subsequent years when
running a chapter or a project (volunteer labor) IMHO but you want to
enroll people to be part of the organization and have them acknowledge
the terms and conditions of handbooks, policies, ethics etc.

>From my perspective this is a excellent opportunity for GK to take the
lead here with review and recommendations to manage the community..
above are simply mine not to be confused with operational goals.

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Tom Brennan |  973 298 1160 x799 | tomb at proactiverisk.com


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org> wrote:
> As of today - 4 current paid members through the Foundation (no idea on how
> many people they have "given" memberships to for free when they have signed
> up for the Cosimti Training course.
>
> Sarah
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Tom Brennan <tomb at proactiverisk.com> wrote:
>>
>> how many OWASP members are in the region?
>> ---
>> Tom Brennan |  973 298 1160 x799 | tomb at proactiverisk.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org> wrote:
>> > Fabio -
>> > I have shared the document with you, but here is the link:
>> >
>> > https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/document/d/1eAIqNm96AUBiHcw1fNRYyV32oQBRG_52Oy3MTaSGcOo/edit?usp=sharing
>> >
>> >
>> > Can you review and let me know of any changes and then I can get this
>> > sent
>> > out (in English and Spanish)?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Sarah
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> will do!  Thanks ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Fabio Cerullo <fcerullo at owasp.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Sarah,
>> >>>
>> >>> Once Laura has the letter in spanish ready, please share it with me so
>> >>> I
>> >>> could have a look at it as well.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Fabio
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sure
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Eoin Keary
>> >>>> Owasp Global Board
>> >>>> +353 87 977 2988
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 14 May 2014, at 21:36, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sure - how is 2 weeks from send date?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Can we have a "please respond by <date>" in the letter as to draw a
>> >>>>> line in the sand.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Eoin Keary
>> >>>>> Owasp Global Board
>> >>>>> +353 87 977 2988
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 14 May 2014, at 19:04, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> +1, I suggest the board sign as well. This is heavy.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> - Jim
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 5/14/14, 10:54 AM, Michael Coates wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Signing with board seems like a good approach.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Michael Coates
>> >>>>> @_mwc
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks everyone for your comments - I have adjusted the letter,
>> >>>>>> adding
>> >>>>>> details where suggested and will be putting it on OWASP letter
>> >>>>>> head.  Laura
>> >>>>>> is also in the process of translating to spanish.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> How would you like the letter signed?  Me and Board of Directors?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sarah
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I agree with the letter and assessment.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> And I also support the idea for all board members to co-sign if
>> >>>>>>> possible to send a strong signal that this is not acceptable.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> All the best, Tobias
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Tobias Gondrom
>> >>>>>>> OWASP Global Board Member
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 07/05/14 01:03, Sarah Baso wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Jim -
>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the comments - always great to have another set of
>> >>>>>>> eyes.
>> >>>>>>> Yes, if you want to co-sign the letter that is obviously even
>> >>>>>>> better.
>> >>>>>>> Let's have everyone get a chance to review and if you all are in
>> >>>>>>> agreement
>> >>>>>>> we will move forward.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>>> Sarah
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Sarah,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I added a few minor comments to the doc but it otherwise looks
>> >>>>>>>> great. Thank you for this. I know it's not easy to bring down the
>> >>>>>>>> hammer at
>> >>>>>>>> this level.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> May I suggest that the OWASP board co-signs this with you? United
>> >>>>>>>> we
>> >>>>>>>> stand...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Aloha,
>> >>>>>>>> Jim
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 5/6/14, 7:59 PM, Sarah Baso wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Board members -
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> As follow up from last weeks board meeting, I have drafted this
>> >>>>>>>> letter to send via email and postal mail in English and Spanish
>> >>>>>>>> (Laura is
>> >>>>>>>> currently working on a translation).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/document/d/15IWdI48dZMlJy5OLh1kx01JGSgkPITeDR3Gu7gRPgSY/edit?usp=sharing
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Additionally here is an email with a consolidation of the email
>> >>>>>>>> threads we (staff) has had with the two chapter leaders:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/document/d/1ztzy-ITOM07NY0nC2N9omqWKN0mDMaNmt8jSwOCvLfs/edit?usp=sharing
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> One update: As of April 30, 2014 (i am not sure on the actual
>> >>>>>>>> date
>> >>>>>>>> the change occurred) it appears that the OWASP logo has been
>> >>>>>>>> removed as a
>> >>>>>>>> partner from the COSIM IT website as requested.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns by next
>> >>>>>>>> week Tuesday the 13th.  Otherwise I will go ahead and send the
>> >>>>>>>> letter.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thank you!
>> >>>>>>>> Sarah
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Executive Director
>> >>>>>>>> OWASP Foundation
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> sarah.baso at owasp.org
>> >>>>>>>> +1.312.869.2779
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
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