[Owasp-board] [Governance] [Owasp-leaders] Requesting Community Feedback on Virtual Management

johanna curiel curiel johanna.curiel at owasp.org
Thu Jun 19 15:53:46 UTC 2014

 >If we were to consider your suggestion, do you think that we could still
meet Sarah's August 4th deadline between assembling the committee, drafting
the RFP, searching suppliers, interviewing, hiring, and training/transition?

maybe not but then it has to be clear as you just have done, that
the board does not have time and resources to set an Open tender process in

I suggest that since the hiring of this company its an urgent/transition
matter, that the contract should not be long term and that actually the VM<
company has a clear tasks for looking for a ED.

Once they have helped with the transition process and hiring of a competent
ED, the new ED together with a committee, could set a Term of references
for defining the nature of the contract between VM and OWASP

On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:

> I do agree with your approach, and think it makes sense to leverage a
> committee approach similar to that proposed in finding a replacement ED,
> but my concern is that for every day we wait for a committee to determine
> what our next best step is, that is a day that we lose for the replacement
> and Sarah to transition tasks.  Sarah's expressed desire was to have a
> replacement in place and on-boarded no later than August 4th with her
> staying on until August 22nd (assuming the baby doesn't come early).  We
> have roughly a month and a half based on her proposed deadline to find
> someone, train them, and make the transition.  The Virtual proposal was not
> designed as a replacement ED, but rather, a way to get someone up and
> running quickly for this transition without the significant time investment
> of interviewing and hiring.  If we were to consider your suggestion, do you
> think that we could still meet Sarah's August 4th deadline between
> assembling the committee, drafting the RFP, searching suppliers,
> interviewing, hiring, and training/transition?
> ~josh
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Carlos Allendes <
> carlos.allendes at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Josh
>> Answering the initial question.
>> If we want to evaluate an external service provider (even the replacement
>> of Executive Director).   I think that there should be a formal process of
>> selecting suppliers with an RFP that define the objectives, scope,
>> penalties...   ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Request_for_proposal  )
>> If we want OWASP grow up. Everything should be formal... and radically
>> transparent.
>> Josh
>> If the board wishes we can assemble a work-team that drafted the RFP and
>> make this formal search for suppliers... then select finalists for the
>> board last  eval/selection.
>> Hope this help.
>> ----------
>> Carlos Allendes Droguett
>> OWASP Chile, chapter leader
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>> ----------
>> 2014-06-18 17:24 GMT-04:00 Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>:
>>>  OWASP Community,
>>> As you already know, our Executive Director, Sarah Baso, recently
>>> announced
>>> <http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2014-June/012007.html>
>>> that she will be leaving OWASP in August in order to spend quality time
>>> with the coming addition to her family.  Since she initially notified us of
>>> her intent, the Board and Sarah began the conversation of how OWASP would
>>> move forward in her absence.  I think we all are aware that Sarah has made
>>> some amazing contributions to our organization and her absence will not go
>>> unnoticed.  That said, it is important for us to think about a short-term
>>> transition plan as well as a long-term vision for the role of Executive
>>> Director at OWASP.
>>> No decisions have been made yet, but the Board believes that there may
>>> be significant value in working with a third-party professional management
>>> firm with experience in global finance, human resources, and non-profit
>>> growth in order to help us to assess where we are today and where we would
>>> like to get to with the Foundation.  The goal would be to use them to
>>> transition many of Sarah's current responsibilities, leverage their
>>> expertise to determine if there are areas that we can improve upon, and
>>> then reassess our options at that time (tentatively Q4 2014).  We could
>>> elect to keep them around, conduct a search for a new Executive Director,
>>> or whatever we all feel makes sense as we push forward.
>>> After researching several such services, we have all been very impressed
>>> with a company called Virtual Management Inc.
>>> <http://www.virtualmgmt.com/manage-your-association/>  Their support
>>> would include time from Greg Kohn
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=9724195> as the Team Lead, Tom
>>> Pappas <https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=23028879> for Finance
>>> and Grants, and Janice Carroll
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=37004151> for Operations.
>>> They have a large volume of experience working with non-profit
>>> organizations similar to our own and received a positive review for their
>>> current work with the Apache Software Foundation.
>>> * QUESTION: Has anyone had a business relationship with: Virtual
>>> Management Inc. or Wakefield, MA or any of its employees? Website:
>>> http://www.virtualmgmt.com/ <http://www.virtualmgmt.com/> Linkedin:
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/50550
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/50550>*
>>> We are conducting our due diligence and are looking for anyone who has
>>> had either GOOD or BAD experiences with Virtual.  OWASP Community, if you
>>> have any feedback regarding Virtual, we would love to hear your comments.
>>> Please, if you have any thoughts, feel free to respond back to this
>>> message, send us an e-mail in private, or call any of us up.  We have a
>>> contract from Virtual, but wanted to make sure that there were no
>>> significant concerns from the community before signing.  We've set a soft
>>> deadline of 5:00 PM PST on Friday, June 20th to try and collect all
>>> feedback and make a decision on how to proceed.  Thank you very much in
>>> advance for anything that you can add to this conversation!
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The OWASP Board of Directors
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