[Owasp-board] [Owasp-leaders] Requesting Community Feedback on Virtual Management

johanna curiel curiel johanna.curiel at owasp.org
Wed Jun 18 23:21:46 UTC 2014

I got some questions:

   - Is this a temporary solution or long term solution?
   - How much does it costs a year?
   - Were other companies also researched and considered?
   - How much time will the team members make available to communicate with
   OWASP Board /Volunteers?
   - How would the communication be managed between OWASP as community and
   the VM team?
   - What are the tasks/goals that this team will have?
   - what will be the decision power the team will have and over which
   specific aspects?

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:

> That, in all honesty, was my first impression as well.  But then I started
> thinking about OWASP as a company with finances, hr, operations, and other
> concerns.  For most of us here, InfoSec is our core competency and not
> those things.  We've made due with our Whistleblower Policies and Employee
> Handbooks, but we owe it to all of our stakeholders to take a more
> professional approach here and elsewhere in our business.  I'd much rather
> see the Board and volunteers focus on our mission of AppSec and leave that
> other stuff to their respective professionals.  That said, I'm very
> interested in seeing where your head is at once you've had an opportunity
> to research and give further consideration.
> ~josh
> On Jun 18, 2014 5:22 PM, "(P7N) Jason Johnson" <jason.johnson at p7n.net>
> wrote:
>> I have been quiet for sometime just watching as things happen as they
>> usually do. Farming out the management duties to a third party sounds like
>> some office space stuff. Sounds strange to me but I will research this and
>> reply back with further disbelief. Meetings with the Bobs..."Well bob I say
>> I do about 25 min of actual work a week" (officespace)
>> On June 18, 2014 4:24:44 PM CDT, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> OWASP Community,
>>> As you already know, our Executive Director, Sarah Baso, recently
>>> announced
>>> <http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2014-June/012007.html>
>>> that she will be leaving OWASP in August in order to spend quality time
>>> with the coming addition to her family.  Since she initially notified us of
>>> her intent, the Board and Sarah began the conversation of how OWASP would
>>> move forward in her absence.  I think we all are aware that Sarah has made
>>> some amazing contributions to our organization and her absence will not go
>>> unnoticed.  That said, it is important for us to think about a short-term
>>> transition plan as well as a long-term vision for the role of Executive
>>> Director at OWASP.
>>> No decisions have been made yet, but the Board believes that there may
>>> be significant value in working with a third-party professional management
>>> firm with experience in global finance, human resources, and non-profit
>>> growth in order to help us to assess where we are today and where we would
>>> like to get to with the Foundation.  The goal would be to use them to
>>> transition many of Sarah's current responsibilities, leverage their
>>> expertise to determine if there are areas that we can improve upon, and
>>> then reassess our options at that time (tentatively Q4 2014).  We could
>>> elect to keep them around, conduct a search for a new Executive Director,
>>> or whatever we all feel makes sense as we push forward.
>>> After researching several such services, we have all been very impressed
>>> with a company called Virtual Management Inc.
>>> <http://www.virtualmgmt.com/manage-your-association/>  Their support
>>> would include time from Greg Kohn
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=9724195> as the Team Lead, Tom
>>> Pappas <https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=23028879> for Finance
>>> and Grants, and Janice Carroll
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=37004151> for Operations.
>>> They have a large volume of experience working with non-profit
>>> organizations similar to our own and received a positive review for their
>>> current work with the Apache Software Foundation.
>>> * QUESTION: Has anyone had a business relationship with: Virtual
>>> Management Inc. or Wakefield, MA or any of its employees? Website:
>>> http://www.virtualmgmt.com/ <http://www.virtualmgmt.com/> Linkedin:
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/50550
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/50550>*
>>> We are conducting our due diligence and are looking for anyone who has
>>> had either GOOD or BAD experiences with Virtual.  OWASP Community, if you
>>> have any feedback regarding Virtual, we would love to hear your comments.
>>> Please, if you have any thoughts, feel free to respond back to this
>>> message, send us an e-mail in private, or call any of us up.  We have a
>>> contract from Virtual, but wanted to make sure that there were no
>>> significant concerns from the community before signing.  We've set a soft
>>> deadline of 5:00 PM PST on Friday, June 20th to try and collect all
>>> feedback and make a decision on how to proceed.  Thank you very much in
>>> advance for anything that you can add to this conversation!
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The OWASP Board of Directors
>>> ------------------------------
>>> OWASP-Leaders mailing list
>>> OWASP-Leaders at lists.owasp.org
>>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-leaders
>> Jason Johnson
>> Projectseven
>> e: Jason.Johnson at p7n.net
>> c: **DATAMAN
>> --
>> On the phone. Please excuse my brevity.
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