[Owasp-board] Fwd: [Owasp-leaders] My views on the OWASP SamanthaGate (10 points and ideas for OWASP)

Eoin Keary eoin.keary at owasp.org
Tue Jun 17 22:28:56 UTC 2014


I believe Yvan raised the issue, that's why we are discussing this.....or did miss something?


Eoin Keary
Owasp Global Board
+353 87 977 2988


On 17 Jun 2014, at 23:20, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org> wrote:

> I think it was good for Michael to first focus on the main issues. 
> 
> @Johanna and Eoin: 
> we have a clear process for violations of ethics and code of conduct. If you think Dinis did break our code of conduct, please raise this as a complaint to the board and the compliance officer. 
> 
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Governance/Whistleblower_Policy
> 
> In this case the compliance officer can investigate and make a recommendation to the board which then decides on the appropriate consequences. 
> 
> If you feel that a warning or evaluation would be needed, please do say so. 
> 
> Thanks a lot for all you efforts and considerations, 
> 
> Tobias
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/06/14 19:39, Eoin Keary wrote:
>> Violation of the code of ethics is a serious matter. If we care at all about the code of ethics Id suggest we consider enforcement.
>> What's the point of having a code if we don't abide by it.
>> 
>> Michaels email did not address this issue. Yvan had the courage to speak out I believe we need to address his concerns head-on.
>> 
>> 
>> Eoin Keary
>> Owasp Global Board
>> +353 87 977 2988
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Yvan Boily <yvanboily at gmail.com>
>>> Date: 17 June 2014 16:42:05 IST
>>> To: Dinis Cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>
>>> Cc: "owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org" <owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] My views on the OWASP SamanthaGate (10 points and ideas for OWASP)
>>> In the last several days, and over the course of the last several months Dinis Cruz has posted messages that have taken an internal matter and made it a public embarrassment to OWASP.
>>> 
>>> Since I know there are people on the sidelines reading I want to be clear:
>>> * There should be a proper investigation of the claims that Samantha has made
>>> * Regardless of the outcome of that investigation, the community should expect those responsible for misconduct or unlawful behaviour to be held accountable
>>> * We, as a community, should expect a strong statement from the board supporting inclusiveness and equality, and supporting this should be an expectation of everyone who opts to be a leader
>>> 
>>> I am requesting that the board consider issuing a warning and/or a temporary ban on Dinis Cruz.  I am                 requesting a warning or temporary ban because I believe that Dinis was genuinely trying to help, and he has been a long standing member of the community advocating for positive change.  This request stems from a desire to                 illustrate that we will hold our members accountable for ethical violations and not out of any malice.
>>> 
>>> In the last 48 hours Dinis has sent messages which violate the following items from the Code of ethics
>>> 
>>> 1. Perform all professional activities and duties in accordance with all applicable laws and the highest ethical principles;
>>> 3. Maintain appropriate confidentiality of proprietary or otherwise sensitive information encountered in the course of professional activities;
>>> * Forwarding confidential information and defamatory messages to mailing list comprised of tens of thousands of people is not in accordance with ethical principles.
>>> 
>>> 6. Refrain from any activities which might constitute a conflict of interest or otherwise damage the reputation of employers, the information security profession, or the Association;
>>> 9. Not intentionally injure or impugn the professional reputation of practice of colleagues, clients, or employers;
>>> 
>>> * The reputations of several board members have been publicly maligned, as has Samantha Groves.  Since the messages were sent in the sense of openness and in the message this is in response to, he claims to have had the desire to allow the opportunity to respond to the claims, that this was done intentionally.
>>> * This incident may have caused irreparable damage to the community.
>>> 
>>> 10. Treat everyone with respect and dignity;
>>> 
>>> * airing unproven allegations to the community undermines the dignity of long-time contributors
>>> 
>>> The OWASP community is huge, and has garnered an impressive amount of influence.  If we fail to hold ourselves, the board, the staff, and each other accountable, then that influence will be squandered.
>>> 
>>> Dinis - please accept my apologies for sending this email, but in my opinion it is a necessary action.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Yvan Boily
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>> 
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