[Owasp-board] Fwd: [Owasp-leaders] My views on the OWASP SamanthaGate (10 points and ideas for OWASP)

Michael Coates michael.coates at owasp.org
Tue Jun 17 22:24:12 UTC 2014


For clarity, Yvan already raised the complaint as a violation of ethics on
the leaders list. I forwarded to governance and cc'ed Martin. I will need
to follow up with Martin to determine if he is still available in this
role. If not we'll have to discuss how to move forward.


--
Michael Coates
@_mwc



On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org> wrote:

>  I think it was good for Michael to first focus on the main issues.
>
> @Johanna and Eoin:
> we have a clear process for violations of ethics and code of conduct. If
> you think Dinis did break our code of conduct, please raise this as a
> complaint to the board and the compliance officer.
>
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Governance/Whistleblower_Policy
>
> In this case the compliance officer can investigate and make a
> recommendation to the board which then decides on the appropriate
> consequences.
>
> If you feel that a warning or evaluation would be needed, please do say
> so.
>
> Thanks a lot for all you efforts and considerations,
>
> Tobias
>
>
>
>
> On 17/06/14 19:39, Eoin Keary wrote:
>
> Violation of the code of ethics is a serious matter. If we care at all
> about the code of ethics Id suggest we consider enforcement.
> What's the point of having a code if we don't abide by it.
>
>  Michaels email did not address this issue. Yvan had the courage to speak
> out I believe we need to address his concerns head-on.
>
>
> Eoin Keary
> Owasp Global Board
> +353 87 977 2988
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>  *From:* Yvan Boily <yvanboily at gmail.com>
> *Date:* 17 June 2014 16:42:05 IST
> *To:* Dinis Cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>
> *Cc:* "owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org" <owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org>
> *Subject:* *Re: [Owasp-leaders] My views on the OWASP SamanthaGate (10
> points and ideas for OWASP)*
>
>      In the last several days, and over the course of the last several
> months Dinis Cruz has posted messages that have taken an internal matter
> and made it a public embarrassment to OWASP.
>
>  Since I know there are people on the sidelines reading I want to be clear:
>  * There should be a proper investigation of the claims that Samantha has
> made
>  * Regardless of the outcome of that investigation, the community should
> expect those responsible for misconduct or unlawful behaviour to be held
> accountable
>  * We, as a community, should expect a strong statement from the board
> supporting inclusiveness and equality, and supporting this should be an
> expectation of everyone who opts to be a leader
>
>  I am requesting that the board consider issuing a warning and/or a
> temporary ban on Dinis Cruz.  I am requesting a warning or temporary ban
> because I believe that Dinis was genuinely trying to help, and he has been
> a long standing member of the community advocating for positive change.
> This request stems from a desire to illustrate that we will hold our
> members accountable for ethical violations and not out of any malice.
>
>  In the last 48 hours Dinis has sent messages which violate the following
> items from the Code of ethics
>
>
> *1. Perform all professional activities and duties in accordance with all
> applicable laws and the highest ethical principles; *
>
> *3. Maintain appropriate confidentiality of proprietary or otherwise
> sensitive information encountered in the course of professional activities;
> ** Forwarding confidential information and defamatory messages to mailing
> list comprised of tens of thousands of people is not in accordance with
> ethical principles.
>
>
>
> *6. Refrain from any activities which might constitute a conflict of
> interest or otherwise damage the reputation of employers, the information
> security profession, or the Association; 9. Not intentionally injure or
> impugn the professional reputation of practice of colleagues, clients, or
> employers; *
>  * The reputations of several board members have been publicly maligned,
> as has Samantha Groves.  Since the messages were sent in the sense of
> openness and in the message this is in response to, he claims to have had
> the desire to allow the opportunity to respond to the claims, that this was
> done intentionally.
>  * This incident may have caused irreparable damage to the community.
>
>
> *10. Treat everyone with respect and dignity; *
>
>  * airing unproven allegations to the community undermines the dignity of
> long-time contributors
>
>  The OWASP community is huge, and has garnered an impressive amount of
> influence.  If we fail to hold ourselves, the board, the staff, and each
> other accountable, then that influence will be squandered.
>
>  Dinis - please accept my apologies for sending this email, but in my
> opinion it is a necessary action.
>
> Regards,
> Yvan Boily
>
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