[Owasp-board] Fwd: [Owasp-leaders] My views on the OWASP SamanthaGate (10 points and ideas for OWASP)

Tobias tobias.gondrom at owasp.org
Tue Jun 17 22:20:31 UTC 2014

I think it was good for Michael to first focus on the main issues.

@Johanna and Eoin:
we have a clear process for violations of ethics and code of conduct. If
you think Dinis did break our code of conduct, please raise this as a
complaint to the board and the compliance officer.


In this case the compliance officer can investigate and make a
recommendation to the board which then decides on the appropriate

If you feel that a warning or evaluation would be needed, please do say so.

Thanks a lot for all you efforts and considerations,


On 17/06/14 19:39, Eoin Keary wrote:
> Violation of the code of ethics is a serious matter. If we care at all
> about the code of ethics Id suggest we consider enforcement.
> What's the point of having a code if we don't abide by it.
> Michaels email did not address this issue. Yvan had the courage to
> speak out I believe we need to address his concerns head-on.
> Eoin Keary
> Owasp Global Board
> +353 87 977 2988
> Begin forwarded message:
>> *From:* Yvan Boily <yvanboily at gmail.com <mailto:yvanboily at gmail.com>>
>> *Date:* 17 June 2014 16:42:05 IST
>> *To:* Dinis Cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org <mailto:dinis.cruz at owasp.org>>
>> *Cc:* "owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
>> <mailto:owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org>"
>> <owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org <mailto:owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org>>
>> *Subject:* *Re: [Owasp-leaders] My views on the OWASP SamanthaGate
>> (10 points and ideas for OWASP)*
>> In the last several days, and over the course of the last several
>> months Dinis Cruz has posted messages that have taken an internal
>> matter and made it a public embarrassment to OWASP.
>> Since I know there are people on the sidelines reading I want to be
>> clear:
>> * There should be a proper investigation of the claims that Samantha
>> has made
>> * Regardless of the outcome of that investigation, the community
>> should expect those responsible for misconduct or unlawful behaviour
>> to be held accountable
>> * We, as a community, should expect a strong statement from the board
>> supporting inclusiveness and equality, and supporting this should be
>> an expectation of everyone who opts to be a leader
>> I am requesting that the board consider issuing a warning and/or a
>> temporary ban on Dinis Cruz.  I am requesting a warning or temporary
>> ban because I believe that Dinis was genuinely trying to help, and he
>> has been a long standing member of the community advocating for
>> positive change.  This request stems from a desire to illustrate that
>> we will hold our members accountable for ethical violations and not
>> out of any malice.
>> In the last 48 hours Dinis has sent messages which violate the
>> following items from the Code of ethics
>> *1. Perform all professional activities and duties in accordance with
>> all applicable laws and the highest ethical principles;
>> *
>> *3. Maintain appropriate confidentiality of proprietary or otherwise
>> sensitive information encountered in the course of professional
>> activities;
>> ** Forwarding confidential information and defamatory messages to
>> mailing list comprised of tens of thousands of people is not in
>> accordance with ethical principles.
>> *6. Refrain from any activities which might constitute a conflict of
>> interest or otherwise damage the reputation of employers, the
>> information security profession, or the Association;
>> 9. Not intentionally injure or impugn the professional reputation of
>> practice of colleagues, clients, or employers;
>> *
>> * The reputations of several board members have been publicly
>> maligned, as has Samantha Groves.  Since the messages were sent in
>> the sense of openness and in the message this is in response to, he
>> claims to have had the desire to allow the opportunity to respond to
>> the claims, that this was done intentionally.
>> * This incident may have caused irreparable damage to the community.
>> *10. Treat everyone with respect and dignity;
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> * airing unproven allegations to the community undermines the dignity
>> of long-time contributors
>> The OWASP community is huge, and has garnered an impressive amount of
>> influence.  If we fail to hold ourselves, the board, the staff, and
>> each other accountable, then that influence will be squandered.
>> Dinis - please accept my apologies for sending this email, but in my
>> opinion it is a necessary action.
>> Regards,
>> Yvan Boily
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