[Owasp-board] Apology from Jim Manico

Eoin Keary eoin.keary at owasp.org
Fri Jan 10 09:56:08 UTC 2014

Jim and myself have had heated discussions over branding of our free material and also distributing business cards after the class. We only use OWASP branding and mention who we are and whom we work for on one slide out of 250.

Eoin Keary
Owasp Global Board
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On 10 Jan 2014, at 05:27, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:

> Christian,
> This is absolutely, positively a FAIR question. When I do "Free OWASP
> Training" I really need to be careful about branding. Sure, WhiteHat
> gets a tangential benefit when I speak at a conference, but I branded
> the presentation as "OWASP" and did not tout WhiteHat when representing
> OWASP officially.
> Here is the presentation I delivered at RSA Europe in 2013.
> http://www.slideshare.net/JimManico/master-rsa2013
> Look at page 2. I did mention I worked for WhiteHat there. That's the
> first and only mention of WhiteHat, I believe.
> Then look at page 50, Eoin and I used our OWASP email.
> Note we also used an OWASP template.
> So what do you think, reasonable?
> PS: I no longer work for WhiteHat.
>> Jim,
>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Christian, do you have contacts at the NSA or the ASIS? I bet they have
>>> a copy of our conversation since it was an international Skype call.
>>> Perhaps they could give us a copy so we could settle this dispute? I
>>> don't have a copy since I deleted it as soon as you asked me to delete it.
>> I look forward to your disputing your claim that you not representing
>> OWASP during RSA i.e.
>> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2014-January/010549.html
>> But then again if you were honest then you would admit that your
>> training course at RSA is solely for the commercial benefit of
>> WhiteHat Security.

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